Posted by tealady on September 30, 2003, at 22:43:49
In reply to Re: stuff, and fluoride » tealady, posted by Larry Hoover on September 29, 2003, at 11:58:37
>This is one of the issues that is so hard to overcome when dealing with "standard medical practise". Few doctors will treat from symptoms alone. They do a blood test, tell you it's normal (when there is way to much variability in the normal range, in any case), and shrug it off.
If you say my post in admin, the docs who have treated some of their patients in this way..and the patients find out by word of mouth and come from far and wide.. are possibly being persued by medical boardsetc..a lesson to other docs
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=40274.1>I think I need testosterone supps, but I'm going to have a tough time getting it
Lar, I really think you have to have blood tests for this stuff as it can be pretty potent, get copies, photocopies etc of test results.
RE: blood test results..IMHO anywhere in the lower half normal with symptoms can be suss..but if you're up there in the top 1/3 or over..it's probably not your problem. (unless the test results have been put out of whack by DHEA or other supplementation?) Best to ask other guys who've had similar tests/symptoms ..or really good docs..what they think
Have a look at this post for an idea
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=46380.1Other suggestions(though I've no personal experience with this)
..if your levels are testing out fine..and ya know.."NORMAL" is not good enough
Try limiting those testosterone depleting foods for 3 days or so
http://www.gladiatordiet.com/ims.htmavoid flax seed too probably for a few days
http://www.gladiatordiet.com/nutrition.htmand possibly try some l-arginine (avoiding nitrates when trying <g>).. and no, I have never tried l-arginine or viagra either<g>
http://www.smartbodyz.com/ArginineText.htm..larrian mention arginine too
>>> Some folks with this may respond to fish oil??
>>> Clear the receptors?>Fish oil increases receptor sensitivity. >Possibly also upregulates receptor synthesis.
I did wonder before if this may possibly be why you had such a good response to fish oil
Jan
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