Posted by joebob on September 27, 2003, at 13:11:36
In reply to Re: B12 reaction » tealady, posted by Larry Hoover on September 21, 2003, at 5:55:12
Although quite rare, serious allergic reactions to injections of vitamin B12 (sometimes even life-threatening) have been reported.28 29 Whether these reactions are to the vitamin itself, or to preservatives or other substances in the injectable vitamin B12 solution, remains somewhat unclear. Most, but not all, injectable vitamin B12 contains preservativessee also:
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Vitamin B12
The medical journal 'Primary Psychiatry' published the following long letter from me in the April 1996 issue, in response to a case-report in the January issue.
Re: 'Case Report: The Psychiatric Manifestations
of B12 Deficiency', Jan., '96
Sir,
B12 deficiency is such an often-missed diagnosis, with such devastating consequences, that I am always grateful to authors of such papers when they do publish one [1].
It is indeed sad that the described patient had to go through so many psychiatrists, for 2.5 years, before the diagnosis was made, since the diagnostic delay may well be the reason for the equivocal response of her dementia to treatment; her diagnosis was made only after 2 years and in the 5th/ last stage of B12 deficiency, which is often neuropsychiatrically irreversible [2-4]. However, I believe there are 2 other possible explanations for her undramatic response to B12 treatment: 1 Suboptimal B12 dosing and frequency; and 2 Other possibly-reversible deficiency states that may also have played a role in her dementia, such as 'subclinical' hypothyroidism, folate, zinc and other mineral deficiencies, and copper toxicity.
The authors are not to be faulted as they followed the standard approach and treatment; but there are indications that these other conditions could have been present despite the thorough work-up the patient received, by current standards. As early as 1960, Smith already pointed out that the neuropsychiatric manifestations of B12 deficiency take higher doses and a longer period of treatment for reversal to occur [5]; and this view was reaffirmed in 1972 [6]. A recent report points to the greater assimilation of B12 from the 1000mcg injections than from the 100mcg ones, without any disadvantage in cost or toxicity [7]; and indeed Newbold proved that even 3000mcg IM t.i.d., producing serum B12 levels as high as 800,000 pg/ml on an indefinite basis, caused no toxicity and many psychiatric benefits [8]! I have gained a distinct sense that we physicians, neurologists and psychiatrists have been miserly with our B12 diagnoses and treatments. Many patients require 1000 mcg IM every 2 weeks (or 2,000-2,500 mcg by mouth twice-daily) as maintenance, in order to keep their serum B12 levels optimal (between 1,000 and 2,000 pg/ml, in the troughs).
As far as other possible causes of her dementia are concerned, 'subclinical' hypothyroidism is one, and the standard 'thyroid panel' would not necessarily pick this up, while the free-T4, free-T3 and 3rd-generation TSH levels would [9-11]. Folate deficiency is a now-well-known cause of reversible dementia [12-15]; this patient's serum folate could have been elevated by a single infusion of multivitamins in the ER prior to her admission to the geriatric psychiatry floor, whereas an RBC-folate level would have reflected the previous several months' folic acid status. Zinc deficiency, which was not tested, has also been seen as a cause of dementia [16-18]; and so has copper toxicity [19], commonly occurring as a result of the use of copper pipes for the plumbing in many American homes.
This patient's B12 deficiency was finally picked up, when first seen by the authors, when her level had dropped to an unmeasurably-low level (<40 pg/ml). Most US labs still give the 'normal' range as 200-1100 pg/ml, even though there are numerous papers, in prestigious mainstream journals, showing that when the serum level drops below 500 or 550 pg/ml the CSF level can become deficient [20-26], and of course that is the important level for the neuropsychiatric manifestations of the disease. And this is without considering an associated low folate or zinc level, or high copper level, to mitigate against even a normal B12 level. Neurologists and psychiatrists have allowed hematologists and pathologists to define for us what is a normal B12 level, despite all our evidence to the contrary. In Japan, these neurologically- and psychiatrically-oriented journal articles are obviously taken into account because the normal range for serum B12 there is 500-1300 pg/ml 23. This is probably a large part of the explanation why Japan has such a low rate of 'Alzheimer's dementia' - and the US has such a high rate. This woman's B12 level may have been measured in the 2.5 yrs prior to the diagnosis being made but, since it may have been >200, it could have been passed as 'normal'. Or the serum B12 level may have been only 113 pg/ml but, because the Schilling's Test was normal, she was regarded as non-deficient: This actually happened in a late-onset-mania case described in the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry in June of 1993, in which the diagnosis of B12 deficiency (as the obvious cause of this case of secondary mania) was not even considered! [27]
I appreciated the references to obsessive compulsive disorder being caused by B12 deficiency; since any organic brain damage can cause it, I had suspected it could be caused by B12 deficiency but had not seen any evidence in the literature. I did not appreciate the weight given to Hector and Burton [28]: Their paper is one of the reasons why B12 deficiency is still so lightly regarded as a cause of numerous neuropsychiatric conditions, including peripheral neuropathy.
References
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Yours faithfully,
John V DOMmisse, MD, FRCPC
> > Just wondered if you had heard of any connection between B12 and numbness and tingling"
>
> No. And I can't find anything that even gives me a hint.
>
> > After each B12 needle I'd have a "one step backwards, two steps forwards reaction"...I was hoping I was doing the right hing, but the trend line seem to be on the improve. Each injection the "purple" lessened and the color of feet/hands turned brighter red
> > Here's part of a post I did on a PN forum
> > "My B12 injection last week caused my to be very fatigued and the palms of my hands to go a bright red and my toes and soles of feet - and a headache for about 4 days. It's been 4 months now and I'm still reacting to the hydrocobalamin injections -I'm still hoping this is the b12 fixing something and NOT some allergic type reaction to the hydrocobalamin making something worse."
> > Each needle the reaction has lessened.
>
> That actually suggests to me that you were seriously B12 deficient, and that your body had ramped up some enzyme concentrations in a desperate attempt to accomodate what little B12 you had available. That's my educated guess. If it was an allergy, you'd get worse over time, not better. You'd have hives. And you'd have a more severe reaction at the injection site.
>
> > Also methylcobalamin sublinguals have similarbut far weaker reactions.
>
> Suggesting you don't have good gut uptake of B12, consistent with the idea that you were previously seriously deficient in B12.
>
> > I haven't taken any large dose B12 for probably 3 months now. I was going to see where my blood levels got to.
>
> Blood B12 is not a great indicator of status, but it is conveniently measured. It's the amount in your various organs and tissues that really determines your B12 status.
>
> > So how's that rate on originality?
> >
> > Hugs, Jan
>
> Oh, you're quite original, sweetheart. I don't know quite what to make of you. <grin>
>
> Lar
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