Posted by Larry Hoover on October 4, 2003, at 9:36:14
In reply to Re: stuff, and testosterone » Larry Hoover, posted by tealady on September 30, 2003, at 22:43:49
> >This is one of the issues that is so hard to overcome when dealing with "standard medical practise". Few doctors will treat from symptoms alone. They do a blood test, tell you it's normal (when there is way to much variability in the normal range, in any case), and shrug it off.
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> If you say my post in admin, the docs who have treated some of their patients in this way..and the patients find out by word of mouth and come from far and wide.. are possibly being persued by medical boardsetc..a lesson to other docs
> http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=40274.1
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> >I think I need testosterone supps, but I'm going to have a tough time getting it
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> Lar, I really think you have to have blood tests for this stuff as it can be pretty potent, get copies, photocopies etc of test results.
> RE: blood test results..IMHO anywhere in the lower half normal with symptoms can be suss..but if you're up there in the top 1/3 or over..it's probably not your problem. (unless the test results have been put out of whack by DHEA or other supplementation?) Best to ask other guys who've had similar tests/symptoms ..or really good docs..what they think
> Have a look at this post for an idea
> http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=46380.1Thanks. Good read. I'm too early in the investigative process to decide anything. Haven't even ruled out cancer, yet. (the nasties get the first focus, of course, just in case)
> Other suggestions(though I've no personal experience with this)
> ..if your levels are testing out fine..and ya know.."NORMAL" is not good enough
> Try limiting those testosterone depleting foods for 3 days or so
> http://www.gladiatordiet.com/ims.htmThanks.
> avoid flax seed too probably for a few days
> http://www.gladiatordiet.com/nutrition.htmI don't use flax....hard on the prostate, fer sure.
> and possibly try some l-arginine (avoiding nitrates when trying <g>).. and no, I have never tried l-arginine or viagra either<g>I know about arginine.....gonna get some.
http://www.smartbodyz.com/ArginineText.htm..larrian mention arginine tooAgain, thanks for the support.
> >>> Some folks with this may respond to fish oil??
> >>> Clear the receptors?
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> >Fish oil increases receptor sensitivity. >Possibly also upregulates receptor synthesis.
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> I did wonder before if this may possibly be why you had such a good response to fish oil
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> JanI don't need to know why. I just need to know whether (it works or not).
Hugs,
Lar
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