Posted by alexandra_k on July 30, 2005, at 22:47:31
In reply to Re: objectification » Declan, posted by alexandra_k on July 30, 2005, at 21:18:31
...and that thats whats wrong with porn. because it presents people as objects. as sex objects. and people think about doing whatever they want to them. not *with* then but *to* them. they can say 'do this do that' and they will just do whatever is asked like a mechanical doll...
...or that they will actually like it. that they dont have any thoughts feelings preferences needs desires of their own. they are solely existing to do whatever they are ordered to.
and then the danger is that that is one thing in fantasy...
it is another thing entirely when people start relating to people in the world in that way.
and some people do. some people do. and i wonder whether society doesn't condone it a little too much and then we wonder why these attitudes are so prevalent.and it amuses me... that my druggie mates. a fair few of them. used to be involved with pro's. used to go see pro's. i remember a conversation i had with one of them... he was telling me that she enjoyed it. that she actually enjoyed sleeping with him for money. i said 'did you go back and ask for her specifically next time?' and he said 'yup'.
and that amuses me because of course a good pro is going to be a master at pretending that they like it. of course they are. and he fell for that. and i told him that i thought it was an act... and he was most upset.and i guess it is things like that that make men feel mad that woman are artful and lying and manipulating and shallow and just in need of a good smacking around.
and it breaks my heart that people support the industry
and dont see anything wrong with it.
it breaks my heart the women who are trapped there
some of them not even realising
(the money drugs cars are good who wants to be a movie star???)
and its an expression of a fundamental sickness in society...
but what really makes me feel sad is what people are supposed to do otherwise.
over here there are organisations like community living trust who look after people who are severely mentally handicapped etc. they take them to pros every now and then. to calm them down. otherwise it can be hard to stop them playing with themselves / each other in public and so on...and when people dont have mental pictures then what are they supposed to do?
i do have some sympathy.
but more for the girls
more for the girls
and i just feel a bit ill...but we aren't really so very far from the animals...
i just feel sad is all.
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