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Posted by Phillipa on July 9, 2006, at 21:02:04
In reply to Re: Time to get serious » Phillipa, posted by Phillipa on July 9, 2006, at 14:54:33
I did it didn't have the ice cream milk shake and rode l2 miles on my bike. But did eat tuffles. Love Phillipa. Deneb I don't have a scale and don't want one as I'd be on it constantly and water wt shifts.
Posted by sleepygirl on July 9, 2006, at 21:38:09
In reply to Re: Time to get serious, posted by Dinah on July 9, 2006, at 9:55:10
I hear people say that it is possible to break one's carb addiction although it can be very uncomfortable....keep the faith Dinah
Are you abstaining from some usually high sugar foods? I know you've got the health issues so you might have a lower carb diet than me already...
I'm a sugar junkie. I'm addicted to soda, the real thing, not diet, keeps the headaches away and gives me a more comfortable/in control feeling. I relate to the shakiness without the carbs..it sucks
You know this reminds me of a TV show where some teenagers had to go to a "brat camp" (their words),
camping in the middle of nowhere, and one of the things they had to adapt to was the lack of high sugar stuff, and it was uncomfortable
that day 3 theory sounds familiar...I remember years ago doing some Atkins thing that I kicked to the curb at about that pointI'm starting slowly, cutting down on breads, opting for healthier options, dreading the withdrawals, one step at a time, but I'm fairly determined
I know you can do it!! Go DINAH!
Posted by sleepygirl on July 9, 2006, at 21:42:19
In reply to Re: How's everyone doing?, posted by Deneb on July 9, 2006, at 20:17:54
I've got a food guide and a whole bunch of recipes from the time I joined last year....
It seems however that I started to resent them for trying to limit my food..yeah it's not rational ;-)
I've got to find a workable way to do this, although it might be uncomfortable at times...there has to be a wayI had whole grain bread today instead of white
an apple instead of more bread
I took a long walk
Posted by cloudydaze on July 10, 2006, at 14:00:45
In reply to Re: Time to get serious, posted by Dinah on July 7, 2006, at 13:44:01
I've been at it for about 7 or 8 weeks now, on a 1400 calorie diet (suggested by my dietician).
My starting weight was 214, current weight is 198, and target weight is 130. I've got a long way to go!
I haven't lost anything really in a few weeks. The first 6 weeks, I lost 14 pounds. The 4th of july weekend kinda set me back a bit. I went to visit my aunt for a few days, and it's just about IMPOSSIBLE to diet there, plus it broke my routine, and that screwed me up a bit. Actually, the day after I came back the scale said I had gained 3 pounds, but it must have been water weight because it was gone in a day or two...
I'm trying to get over this plateau...it's been hard to force myself to excercise lately because i've been having other problems (pain in the legs that is either shin splints or a circulation problem...doc's not sure yet). Exercising through blinding pain is not easy. It's pretty depressing actually. I think i could do well with some encouragement.
Posted by Dinah on July 10, 2006, at 17:09:59
In reply to can i join your club?, posted by cloudydaze on July 10, 2006, at 14:00:45
Of course!
You're doing great you know. Success stories like yours and Midnight Blue's inspire me. I hope you're focusing on how far you've already come as well as on your ultimate goal. :)
Posted by Dinah on July 10, 2006, at 17:25:27
In reply to GO Dinah GO!! You can do it! :-), posted by sleepygirl on July 9, 2006, at 21:38:09
Yeah, I did Atkins several times in my younger higher metabolism days and usually lost everything I wanted to lose in a week. But Day 3 was the killer. Half the time I didn't get past that.
My previous diet wasn't low carb. Just the opposite in fact. It's not like I ate a whole lot. Nowhere what I used to eat as a youngster. And I had given up sugary drinks. But what I did eat was white bread, or pasta, or rice, or potatoes. I might add something to that, but the base was carbs.
So this is a huge thing for me. :( My therapist was outraged that I wasn't sure if good health was worth giving up white bread and pasta.
At least the Sugarbusters diet allows you carbs, whole wheat, brown rice, that sort of thing. Low glycemic index. So it should be better than Atkins.
Sigh.
I've been pretty good. And I think my stomach might be shrinking. I'm getting full much faster. Now to add some exercise.
Posted by Dinah on July 11, 2006, at 15:55:59
In reply to Re: GO Dinah GO!! You can do it! :-) » sleepygirl, posted by Dinah on July 10, 2006, at 17:25:27
I'm tearful, restless, and I cheated. Yes, I ate a biscuit.
I don't think this is worth it. I really don't. Food is just too much a part of what makes life worth living.
Posted by MidnightBlue on July 11, 2006, at 16:31:09
In reply to Not such a good day, posted by Dinah on July 11, 2006, at 15:55:59
Dinah,
I'm in no shape to diet right now. I'm not even getting on the scale. Not sleeping, lots of stress. And of course stuffing my face.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
Posted by Deneb on July 11, 2006, at 19:13:04
In reply to Not such a good day, posted by Dinah on July 11, 2006, at 15:55:59
I know what you mean about food making life better. Food is such a comfort. It's hard to limit something that makes us feel better.
I think it's all about moderation. I think it's ok to have some cake, as long as it's two bites of cake and not a whole slice.
I didn't do so well today. Boredom makes me eat. I eat when I'm not hungry. I have nothing to do, so I reach for food. I'm going to have to do other things. I'm determined to lose at least 1 pound before Sun. Instead of eating when bored, I'm going to drink green tea instead. Green tea is an appetite suppressant, I think. It's also full of antioxidants.
Deneb*
Posted by Dinah on July 13, 2006, at 13:47:45
In reply to Re: Not such a good day » Dinah, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2006, at 19:13:04
If not the actual rules.
I'm allowed to eat wheat bread and brown rice. But I'm not sure I'm allowed to eat quite so much wheat bread and brown rice. :)
It's a bit embarassing to admit that I'm rebelling against my very own self.
Posted by Deneb on July 13, 2006, at 19:01:55
In reply to Violating the spirit of the diet, posted by Dinah on July 13, 2006, at 13:47:45
You can do it Dinah! I believe in you. Try eating with smaller plates to trick yourself into thinking you're eating more than you are.
I'm going to try that starting today.
Deneb*
Posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:10:37
In reply to Re: Not such a good day » Dinah, posted by Deneb on July 11, 2006, at 19:13:04
I have the problem of eating when i'm bored too. One remedy is to try to find something to keep you busy. I get really bored and depressed over the summer, so i'm suseptable to overeating.
Earlier in the summer, I did arts and craft stuff...I made clay beads (with bakeable clay - you can buy it at craft stores) and made jewelry out of them, and when I got bored with that, I got a library card and decided to do some reading. I imagine I'll be back to the arts & crafts sooner or later.
It's also fun to try something new. If you don't have a hobby, find one! For me, making things (whether its jewelry, paintings, sculptures, clothing, anything...)is one way to find satisfaction without unecessary eating.
> I know what you mean about food making life better. Food is such a comfort. It's hard to limit something that makes us feel better.
>
> I think it's all about moderation. I think it's ok to have some cake, as long as it's two bites of cake and not a whole slice.
>
> I didn't do so well today. Boredom makes me eat. I eat when I'm not hungry. I have nothing to do, so I reach for food. I'm going to have to do other things. I'm determined to lose at least 1 pound before Sun. Instead of eating when bored, I'm going to drink green tea instead. Green tea is an appetite suppressant, I think. It's also full of antioxidants.
>
> Deneb*
Posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:16:10
In reply to Re: Violating the spirit of the diet » Dinah, posted by Deneb on July 13, 2006, at 19:01:55
I've recently discovered whole grain pasta....it's not so bad :) It seems to fill me up faster than regular pasta.
Eating on smaller plates does help. Also, eating healthy snacks throughout the day helps you to not overeat at major meals. I've read that you're supposed to eat something every four hours. I like fresh fruit (apples are good, and have fiber), veggies with fat free dip, or light yogurt for snacks. Also, water helps you feel full.
> You can do it Dinah! I believe in you. Try eating with smaller plates to trick yourself into thinking you're eating more than you are.
>
> I'm going to try that starting today.
>
> Deneb*
Posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:21:38
In reply to Re: can i join your club? » cloudydaze, posted by Dinah on July 10, 2006, at 17:09:59
Thanks!
Right now I'm having trouble though...it seems I am struggling with the same few pounds over and over. I think I'm becoming lazy again. The temperature in Southern Illinois lately has been up over 100 and with swamplike humidity that this area is famous for. In that kind of heat, I don't even want to step outside, let alone go for a walk in it....on the days that it's cooler than 100 degrees, it's raining....
So probably the reason i'm struggling is because i've fallen out of my walking routine. I've tried doing other excercise routines indoors, but i must not be burning enough calories.
I just can't make myself go out in the sweltering heat...
> Of course!
>
> You're doing great you know. Success stories like yours and Midnight Blue's inspire me. I hope you're focusing on how far you've already come as well as on your ultimate goal. :)
>
>
Posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:34:51
In reply to Not such a good day, posted by Dinah on July 11, 2006, at 15:55:59
beating yourself up over a buscuit? I've cheated worse than that...but if you beat yourself up, it's just gonna make things worse.
You should enjoy food, but it shouldn't be everything. And know also that there are now so many healthy alternatives out there - so many low fat, low cal, and low carb alternatives to try out! i've recently discovered that i like some fat free chesses...wouldn't have thought so, but i do. I also found a butter substitute that is actually good (smart balance, and smart balance light - both good). There are products out there that can allow us to have the tastes we crave, but with healthier options.
And for the things we can't find substitutes for, a little of the real thing won't kill us. It's about moderation. If you're craving chocolate cake, have a little (not a lot, a little). Sometimes a little is all ypu need to feel satisfied - and that way you don't feel like you're denying yourself anything.
I'm lucky because i love angel food cake, and it's actually not that bad for you. Since it's made with egg whites, its relatively low in fat and calories. So if my grandma bakes a cake, i don't feel too guilty about having a slice.
> I'm tearful, restless, and I cheated. Yes, I ate a biscuit.
>
> I don't think this is worth it. I really don't. Food is just too much a part of what makes life worth living.
Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2006, at 22:54:21
In reply to Re: Not such a good day, posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:34:51
Exactly I was on every diet there is Atkins, you name it and could stick with it for two weeks at the most then I would binge gain back what I'd lost and more. One day at the annual OB-GYN physical I stepped on the scale and realized I weighed the same thing I had for over l0 years. That was the end of my diet days. I recognized set-point the weight your body wants to be and stopped dieting and ate a little of whatever I wanted. And one piece of chocolate tastes better then 10 your savor it. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on July 17, 2006, at 9:51:51
In reply to Re: Not such a good day » cloudydaze, posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2006, at 22:54:21
I'm going to try to get on track. I'm not cheating anyone but myself by eating more than I should of the allowable foods.
I know this is so important to my health. Not only the direct triglycerides and diabetes, but if I really can reduce my medications, it should help my liver from being harmed long term.
But I just hate that itchy jumpy feeling I get on low calories. It's not so much that I want the enjoyment of eating so much as I want to avoid that itchy jumpy feeling.
And wanting to cry all the time.
Posted by Dinah on July 17, 2006, at 9:54:45
In reply to Re: can i join your club?, posted by cloudydaze on July 16, 2006, at 22:21:38
I've been wanting to start either yoga or the old workout tapes I did when I was young. Although I fear at my age, they'll just kill me.
But I literally can't find the room in my house to do them. That's pretty darn sad, isn't it?
It's way way too hot to do anything but walk to the car and marvel at how much heat gets reflected off of concrete, and wonder if you really could cook an egg on the sidewalk.
Posted by MidnightBlue on July 17, 2006, at 9:55:47
In reply to Re: Not such a good day, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2006, at 9:51:51
Dinah,
I'm 225 this morning. Not great but not horrible. Stopping the estrogen patch seemed to help me lose 2-3 pounds of water weight.
I REALLY need to lose 25 more at least. Will try to drink more water today. JUST THAT ONE THING, but I will try to do that.
Pick something tiny you can do Dinah. I think the whole diet is too hard right now. What one little thing can you do this week?
HUGS,
MidnightBlue
Posted by cloudydaze on July 17, 2006, at 19:36:56
In reply to Re: Not such a good day » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on July 17, 2006, at 9:55:47
I'm back at 198 today. A few days ago i reached 197, but I've pretty much been at 198-199 for a few weeks now. Can't seem to get past that point, and i need to lose about 60-70 more pounds to be healthy.
On the upside, I do find myself looking a little thinner - at least i know i lost a few inches...that makes me feel better.
Today i feel like crap though. My boyfriend went to visit his parents out of town for a week...he left yeaterday and i'm already lonely. Probably why i didn't sleep a wink last night, and now i have a headache.
I'm gonna go make dinner. Maybe eating veggie stir fry will keep my mind off of him for a minute (i love veggie stir fry)
Ah....lonliness.
PS. Water does help a lot. Makes you feel better in general...cuz ya know...your body needs water. In fact, i think i have a headache because i'm dehydrated.
> Dinah,
>
> I'm 225 this morning. Not great but not horrible. Stopping the estrogen patch seemed to help me lose 2-3 pounds of water weight.
>
> I REALLY need to lose 25 more at least. Will try to drink more water today. JUST THAT ONE THING, but I will try to do that.
>
> Pick something tiny you can do Dinah. I think the whole diet is too hard right now. What one little thing can you do this week?
>
> HUGS,
> MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2006, at 9:45:51
In reply to Re: Not such a good day, posted by cloudydaze on July 17, 2006, at 19:36:56
So I guess I'm inching down. Of course that last eight or so pounds was a very recent addition so should be easier to come off.
I've been pretty good about sticking to the letter of the diet and getting better about sticking to the spirit of it. I'm having a hard time convincing myself that when I cheat I'm not getting anything past anyone but msyelf.
I have to watch for sugar lows though. Last night I was sad about something, and hardly ate anything and this morning I felt awful.
On to water and exercise now.
Posted by cloudydaze on July 19, 2006, at 19:13:28
In reply to 202 1/2, posted by Dinah on July 19, 2006, at 9:45:51
GOOD FOR YOU!
I think you're supposed to eat every 4 hours or so (at least that's what i read...) to prevent sugar lows. I have a hard time doing this sometimes, but i try to remind myself to have a small snack even if i don't feel like i;m starving.
I'm supposed to keep my metabolism up. I've been skipping breakfast a lot lately, which i shouldnt do. My dietician told me specifically not to. So i've got to work on that. Also, I need to work on cutting down on the wine intake. Its ok that i have one glass, but three is not so good.
Still not getting enough exercise, but part of the problem is that i'm not sleeping at night....so i am lazy during the day :(
I weighed in at 197.6 today.
> So I guess I'm inching down. Of course that last eight or so pounds was a very recent addition so should be easier to come off.
>
> I've been pretty good about sticking to the letter of the diet and getting better about sticking to the spirit of it. I'm having a hard time convincing myself that when I cheat I'm not getting anything past anyone but msyelf.
>
> I have to watch for sugar lows though. Last night I was sad about something, and hardly ate anything and this morning I felt awful.
>
> On to water and exercise now.
Posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2006, at 20:07:41
In reply to Re: 202 1/2, posted by cloudydaze on July 19, 2006, at 19:13:28
Those small meals need to contain some protein to stabalize your blood sugar, a cube of cheese, tablespoon of peanut butter on a cracker, yougurt,a handful of nuts. Love Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl on July 19, 2006, at 22:33:46
In reply to 202 1/2, posted by Dinah on July 19, 2006, at 9:45:51
good work lady!!
I admire your determination.
Best to you,
sg
Posted by cloudydaze on July 20, 2006, at 1:01:13
In reply to Re: 202 1/2 » cloudydaze, posted by Phillipa on July 19, 2006, at 20:07:41
with the diet i'm on, i'm only allowed so many servings of protein a day...so sometimes my snacks are protein based, and sometimes not. I try to eat fruit & veggies for snacks mostly...I think the fiber makes me feel full. I have a hard time getting enough vegetation into my diet though...I'm supposed to have at LEAST 3 veggie (between 3 & 5) servings a day - they're lowest in calories, and are good for you.
I'll have do do a snack experiment and see which one sustains me longer...protein or fiber :)
It would be interesting.
> Those small meals need to contain some protein to stabalize your blood sugar, a cube of cheese, tablespoon of peanut butter on a cracker, yougurt,a handful of nuts. Love Phillipa
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