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Re: Very debatable

Posted by mama141 on November 16, 2005, at 15:33:47

In reply to Re: Very debatable » SLS, posted by alexandra_k on November 14, 2005, at 13:47:38

Oh yeah!! In fact when I began to ask just these
very questions in AA a number of years ago I was informed that I was in "denial"! (Thats when I began to have my doubts about the all-sacred "program" of AA.
This brings us to another trap -- there has only been one known "behavioral condition" in history supposedly identifiable in this fashion --(by denial) -- Witchcraft ---
In Salem, Mass in the 17th century during the "Witch Trials", the "positive" indicator that the individual was a "witch" was her denying that she was a witch!!
We may think that to be archeic and silly, but isn't that just how AA sees things!? Mama
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> > I am unprepared to label sweepingly alcoholism or addiction as being diseases. However, they are what they are. We can understand and treat them without the label of disease as long as we have an accurate description.
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> My difficulty with the AA model is that it ASSUMES that addictive behaviours ARE a disease. And so what that does is it promotes the idea that we do not need an unbiased investigation into the nature of addictive behaviours. (What I mean by an unbiased investigation is an investigation where both genetic and environmental factors are considered). To say that addictive behaviours ARE A DISEASE is to promote the idea that the nature of addictive behaviours has been discovered and all sorted out already, and that it has been discovered that addictive behaviours are the result of a DISEASE process. The AA party line is that the DISEASE is CHRONIC and that AA attendance and surrender to god is the ONLY WAY to achieve TOTAL ABSTINENCE which is considered to be the ONE AND ONLY GOAL that it is legitimate to have.
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> So the problem is... If we accept this model of addictive behaviours then why would we bother investigating the nature of addictive behaviours? We think we already know... So why would we bother?
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