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reverse objectification » alexandra_k

Posted by zeugma on November 24, 2005, at 23:07:43

In reply to Re: no girlfriend so I turned to prostition » TexasChic, posted by alexandra_k on November 21, 2005, at 3:53:34

i don't know about Kant's rather absolutist (IMO) ethics.

I will say that the experience of depersonalization is one in which one views oneself as an object. Body parts are disconnected in the sense that there is no organic sense of 'belonging to oneself.' Experience is perceived as discontinuous, rather like Edelman's 'splinter selves', except that the splinters are not autonomous at all, albeit they are not felt to make a whole. I suppose Dennett would say they are like a set of drafts competing for primacy- the difference with DID being that the drafts are not autonomous at all, they lack the feeling of being a set of mutually coherent drafts but they are not autonomous at all.

it makes relationships in the sexual asense impossible. I don't perceive others as objects at all- but perceiving oneself oneself continuosly as an object is not conducive to entering into relationships at all. It's not even a sense of being a coherent object, which I think is the sticking point. I know Kant has some interesting things to say about the first person, and I think that is the crucial point for this matter. if one simply has a shaky sense of the first person, then the relations one can enter into with others are ambiguous at best. One has trouble relating to oneself. I suppose everyone has trouble with that, to some degree.

-z


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