Posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 16:33:57
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-( » adrift, posted by Racer on November 19, 2006, at 14:24:44
> > It is much easier said then done, but if you can try to arrange your day so that you are not at home just sitting around, it will absolutely help.
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> That's great advice.Thanks
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> > this may be terrible advice, I hope it isn't, but I don't have issues with bulimia so Im not sure how it goes exactly. If you do choose to binge on all that crappy food, then dont eat dinner. Balance out your calories that way.
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> And I'm sorry to say that this isn't great advice. You suggested yourself that it might not be, so I hope you'll accept this as constructive criticism, because I think you meant it for the best.
Just to clarify, if this were a post about anorexia, I would never have said that! My food issue is around restricting so that's what I can relate to. When I have dinner plans where I know I have to eat a lot of food, I won't eat that day or maybe just some fruit. But in the end all the food that I eat at the dinner probably makes up for my daily caloric intake. But I don't see that as dangerous advice for someone stuggling with bulimia. Bulimia is about eating and vomiting. So where my suggestion is coming from is the idea that, if she were to binge consuming lots of calories and not purge, and then presumably not necessarily being hungry for the next meal there is not a caloric need for those calories. I was just suggesting it in the sense that, if it will help you to not purge, then don't add any more calories until you need them again. I don't eat on a fixed meal schedule so when I say "skip dinner", I don't mean starve yourself. we all eat differently and on different schedules and my dinner might be someone else's evening snack and vice versa.
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> Much better advice would be to eat solid, balanced meals and snacks -- three meals, and three snacks per day -- so that you don't get so hungry that you binge. That's the advice given by dietitians, and that's the advice given in eating disorder programs. It's good advice.
It is good advice, my nutritionist tried to hammer that into my head, but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. It makes me obsessed with food to eat that way. there are probably others who can't do that way of eating as well, I was just offering another alternative in which I by no means meant to imply starve yourself, in case that is what came across.>Any time you try to restrict to lose weight, you set yourself up for a binge. A lot of eating disorder specialists say that, eventually, all anorexics begin to binge (and generally purge) because no one can restrict consistently without beginning that cycle.
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> Thanks for the great advice above.That is true, although one person's binge is very differenet from another persons binge. I think many people who are restricting end up binging, but the binge may be on a "normal" portion of food, rather then a "binge" amount of food.
when I suggested I was giving terrible advice it was because I wasn't sure what she was describing as a binge. If there is not adequate food intake in the day then skipping a meal or a previously planned portion of food would not be wise. There are so many forms of eating disorders and I do know that often for people with bulimia they struggle with overing, which is what it sounded like was going on. Sometimes people feel pressure to eat at set times, even if they aren't hungry, that is also not necessarily healthy. We should eat when we are hungry and stop when we are full. Well, actually before we feel both of those sensations. My point, it is very very dangerous to purge!!! and finding alternative ways to keep yourself from doing that without starving oneself seems ok? Anyway, I needed to explain myself.
And of course I took it as you meant it.
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