Posted by alexandra_k on May 14, 2005, at 0:53:07
In reply to Re: Dryden, Ellis, ACT, posted by pedrito on May 13, 2005, at 22:44:34
> - I suffer from derealization (I think) which ... means I disappear off for most of the day into a distant, anxious World of cognition that bears no resemblance to what I actually think whatsoever.
Ah.
Thats helpful. I wasn't sure what kinds of thoughts were worrying you.Is it that it isn't so much a problem with your thoughts (your internal verbal dialogue)...
or your mental pictures (I used to get images of myself hanging off one of the rafters in my house)...
But more a problem with the QUALITY of your EXPEREINCE???
Does that seem right???
>Derealization is different though, it's like a different World. A horrible different World, unfortunately.Yeah. I get this sometimes. But I'm not too sure on whether our experiences are similar or not. I haven't really talked about what it is like to anyone in very much detail. Probably because - as you say - it is hard to describe / explain.
> nearly all of my thinking is totally unreal/not my own/foreign/distant. It's not obtrusive in nature, it wholly displaces your cognition. I can't have a rational thought if I try.
> - Think of DR as being in another World where normal thoughts can't reach.Some people experience their thoughts as being alien. Like they aren't produced by them the way that they should be. Some people experience their bodily movements / actions as alien in the same way.
'Less extreme' versions of these are found in de-personalisation (the sense that one isn't real, or all there, somehow). An extreme version can be found in delusions of thought insertion and alien control. Where (apparantly) people come to believe on the basis of their experiences that an external agency is controlling their thinking / feeling / behaviours.
Is that kind of what you mean?
The other way is de-realisation. Thats when the world seems removed or distant somehow. The world doesn't seem real.
Quite often depersonalisation / derealisation can be found together.
Is this what you are getting at???
I'm not at all sure that either cognitive restructuring or acceptance can alter the experience.
But medication may help.???
I don't know...
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