Posted by bulldog2 on May 5, 2010, at 15:21:34
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-rolthedyce » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on May 5, 2010, at 12:43:24
> > So lets say that the frequecy of one having a mind-altered state induced by taking the drug is one out of 1000, and they take the drug 3 times a day, then in 333 days or so, the frequency could be even, like a flip of a coin.
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> The probability that you describe here is given as the rate per person, not the rate per dose. The likelihood that someone will incur a behavioral side effect might actually decrease with progressive doses.
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> Perhaps you can find some statistics to work with in order to establish the rate of suicide due to antidepressant use versus that of untreated depression. It might help people to make decisions.
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> For what it's worth, a recent study reported that the risk of suicide is the same among the various antidepressants. I can't offer the actual article, but it can be found in the May issue of Archives of General Psychiatry.
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> - Scott
>Hi Scott
You know there is an obvious flaw in ad's make people committ suicide argument. I'm depressed and someone tells me to read the bible because that will show me the way and lift my depression. I start reading the bible and committ suicide three weeks later. Conclusion:Bible reading makes people committ suicide. So someone is on an ad and committs suicide. There are so many variables in one's life you just can't make these conclusions.
Have they run any double blind studies where both groups were analyzed to have the exact same illness. In other words the two groups were virtual clones of each other.
The depressed person was taking an ad when he/she committed suicide. Prove that the ad was the reason. More people in the ad group committed suicide than the non-ad group.That's the entire argument that ads caused these suicides. Again were both the ad group and non ad group identical for genetics and environment.I guess someone with an agenda could really rig this test. I would like someone to analyze some of these suicides to link the suicides to the ads. The whole argument is more people in the ad group committed suicide than the non ad group. Conclusion ads cause suicide. I think at best you have to take the result and analyze it further to establish a firm connection other than He/she took an ad and therefore the ad caused the suicide.
This is bogus science and the conclusion is full of holes.
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