Posted by Lou Pilder on May 5, 2010, at 7:59:05
In reply to Re: Lou's response- psoewmedamo » Lou Pilder, posted by morganator on May 4, 2010, at 23:21:36
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> I hope this answers all of your questions.
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> Sorry I went a little crazy with the links.m,
You wrote,[...hope this answers all your questions...]
I have read reports of the nature that you have posted links to many years ago. When reading those reports, I would like for others to look at the article in the link that I offer at the end of this post explaining what is known as neurogenesis when you read the articles offered here.
After you read the article in the link that I am offering here,I would like those that are interested in this discussion to see if the researcher in the articles offered is or is not an employee of a pharmiceutical company that makes psychotropic drugs. I would also ask that readers check to see that the author does or does not use words like, may, or might, or we think, or other words that do not show proof but speculation.
Now even if there is some infomation about neurogenesis in the offered links here that connect chemicals to increasing or decreaing neurogenesis, does that mean that taking mind-altering drugs for a long period of time will anul the fact that the drugs could induce a mind-altered state that could cause the one taking the drug to want to kill themselves? Or would it anul the fact that the drug could cause sudden death or bleeding in the brain or tardive dyskinesia or parkinson like diease or a life-ruining condition or death by heart attck or blood disease?
There is more evidence that there are dangers to taking antidepressants today than there were many years ago whern some of the limks to articles offered here were written. And if you read the offered links here closly, you may find some that say that they do not know, and go on to say that no one else knows either, what cause depression. I think that I do, and object to their conclusion to include me who they do not know.
My friends, I do not want you to stop taking your drugs because the withdrawal period could have the potential to induce a mind-altered state for you to want to kill yourself. What I am writing here about is confoming to the mission of the forum which is for education. I offer education so that you can make a more informed decision as to how you want to proceed with your situation. I would like for you to ask the one that has prescribed these drugs to you that if they prescribe another drug to you while you are taking one drug, and there is research to show that the combining of the drugs could be contraindicated or cause death, to ask that provder why they want you to take the two drugs together. And if you go to a doctor for depression and they tell you to take a drug that is listed as a drug that could induce a mind-altered state to have you want to kill yourself, to ask that provider why they are wanting you to take that drug with the other. And if they say the benefits outweigh the risk, could you ask them to explain that to you if the drug could cause you to want to kill yourself?
You see, many could be here at a crossroad in their life. They may be addicted and want to go the way of discontinuing any drugs that they are taking. I want to help those people in how they could overcome the addiction and withdrawal period which could then be supportive to those that want to take that road. Those that want to take the road of taking mind-altering chemicals in their system have Mr. Hsiung providing a section here for his experts that write here about psychotropic drugs that you can see in a section of this forum. There are also the members here posting about their use of mind-altering drugs.
I think that it could be more helpful for people to know about these drugs {before} they take them. for after taking them, you could become addicted and then be faced with either continuing those drugs for life and be subjected to the potential of having a life-ruing condition from them or kill themselves or die from the drug, or going through a withdrawal from the drug which has it's own potential to induce a mind-altered state to have the one taking the drug to want to kill themselves. .
Lou
here is the link abour neurogenesis that I would like for you to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurogenesis
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