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Posted by Deneb on November 15, 2006, at 18:32:12
In reply to Re: Bulimia's a bitch » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on November 14, 2006, at 23:27:36
Thanks 10derHeart,
My pdoc knows about my problem. I keep her up to date. It's just disappointing when I tell her everything and I'm still getting worse.
Today went a little bit better. I binged on chips, poundcake, ice cream and candy, but I didn't purge. I knew it would make me fat, but I still didn't purge.
I hate binging and purging. It's shameful to me. I eat like a total pig. Vomiting is totally gross. I wish I never discovered how to purge.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on November 15, 2006, at 22:36:45
In reply to Re: Bulimia's a bitch » 10derHeart, posted by Deneb on November 15, 2006, at 18:32:12
I have to start counting calories and writing down what I eat again. I've lost the ability to regulate how much food I eat. I eat non-stop. I can't believe how quickly I can forget how to eat normally.
I'm going back on my 1200 kcal/day diet. I'm a failure at fasting and restricting. I just don't have the discipline. I'm too impulsive. I binge on millions of calories then purge. It's really disgusting. Vomit, strands of split, snot and tears, toilet water splashing onto my face.
These past days I must have eaten about 3000 kcal a day, maybe more, the chips and ice cream are pretty calorie dense. I have to stop or else I'm going to be overweight.
I hate my bulimia!!!!! I think it's official, I have bulimia (my pdoc used that word). I've been bulimic on and off since I started university. I just read some posts of mine on binging and purging about a year ago. I was able to stop then. I hope I can stop this time.
I just know I will never be underweight. At the rate I'm eating I would be lucky to not be 50 pounds overweight in a year's time. Overweight and probably lose my teeth too.
Deneb*
Posted by ClearSkies on November 16, 2006, at 9:51:57
In reply to Re: Bulimia's a bitch, posted by Deneb on November 15, 2006, at 22:36:45
Deneb, my therapist recommended a book to me that you might find helpful. It's called "Breaking Free from Emotional Eating".
I do think it's important that we recognize the role that responding with food to our emotional problems plays. I don't mean to minimize your situation or imply that it's simply a matter of reading a book to fix it (!!!). While reading it for my own problems with emotional eating, I thought that it might be good for you, too.
ClearSkies
Posted by Poet on November 17, 2006, at 18:12:39
In reply to Bulimia's a bitch, posted by Deneb on November 14, 2006, at 21:22:33
Yes, it is. Absolutely. Bulimia is a bitch. I ought to know I've been one for over 28 years. It's messy, it's disgusting. I say no more and then something happens that emotionally triggers a binge/purge and there I go again.
I have managed on my own to stay in control most of the time. My T has told me that if my bulimia gets out of control that she would refer me to someone with more expertise. I hope you don't think I'm being a hypocrite for suggesting that you see a therapist for your bulimia when I never did, but I think you should.
Ask your pdoc if she knows of any therapists who have experience working with eating disorders, okay?
Poet
Posted by Deneb on November 17, 2006, at 22:34:01
In reply to Re: Bulimia's a bitch » Deneb, posted by Poet on November 17, 2006, at 18:12:39
I can't believe it, but I didn't binge or purge today! I've been purge free for 3 days now and binge free just today. I felt NO DESIRE to purge today!!!
I thought I was never going to break out of the cycle.
OK, this is probably a stupid question, but just how long does it take for Prozac to work? Since I started it I haven't purged. Maybe it's some sort of placebo effect. Maybe I felt like my pdoc really thought it would help me and so it did. Maybe it's just coincidence.
Poet, I'm so sorry you've had bulimia for over 28 years. I'm glad you feel in control of it though. Did you ever attempt getting help during the early course of your illness?
My pdoc says she's really glad we caught my bulimia early. I've never been bulimic for more than 3 months at a time so I have technically never developed full blown bulimia.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on November 17, 2006, at 23:08:02
In reply to Re: A miracle?, posted by Deneb on November 17, 2006, at 22:34:01
I just want to write more about this miracle. LOL
I just can't believe it!!! I'm so happy!
Things were getting bad, but all of a sudden they are getting better.
I just read that people with bulimia can start getting better within *1 week* of taking Prozac! Just one week! So, it's possible the prozac is working after only 3 days. I really did NOT think Prozac was going to do anything to help me stop binging and purging. I got the idea that bulimia is almost 100% a psychological problem and NOT biochemical.
I just can't believe it! I'm not even on the suggested 80 mg of Prozac for bulimia, I'm only on 20 mg. However, I'm also on 50 mg of Celexa... I sure am taking a lot of SSRI!
I'm just soooo happy right now. :-) I didn't binge or purge today.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on November 18, 2006, at 15:52:43
In reply to Re: A miracle?, posted by Deneb on November 17, 2006, at 23:08:02
No miracle. Binged on poundcake, purged.
Posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 13:13:49
In reply to Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by Deneb on November 18, 2006, at 15:52:43
I would seriously consider speaking to your parents about the food that they keep in the house. If you are this concerned about it, then you should be letting your parents know that thier shopping habits are impacting you. Assuming this is not food that you bought. At lest you had a few good days! That is better then none, right?!
This situation looks like it needs your parents brought into it. Think about it anyway. And if you don't want to tell them why, tell them you are trying to diet and the junk food is hard to resist, if they must bring it into the house, maybe they could hide it from you.
Keep trying deneb, you did well with those days.
Posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 13:25:17
In reply to Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by Deneb on November 18, 2006, at 15:52:43
It is much easier said then done, but if you can try to arrange your day so that you are not at home just sitting around, it will absolutely help.
If the problem is studying and eating, then go work somewhere else, the school library maybe.
this may be terrible advice, I hope it isn't, but I don't have issues with bulimia so Im not sure how it goes exactly. If you do choose to binge on all that crappy food, then dont eat dinner. Balance out your calories that way. I am not trying to say skip meals but maybe learning how to balance out calories which includes junk food might help. Take a look at weight watchers, I believe they have a program that does this. I know someone who swears by it, she has a junk food problem also and she lost weight, kept it off and still eats cookies.
good luck
Posted by Racer on November 19, 2006, at 14:24:44
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 13:25:17
> It is much easier said then done, but if you can try to arrange your day so that you are not at home just sitting around, it will absolutely help.
>That's great advice.
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> this may be terrible advice, I hope it isn't, but I don't have issues with bulimia so Im not sure how it goes exactly. If you do choose to binge on all that crappy food, then dont eat dinner. Balance out your calories that way.And I'm sorry to say that this isn't great advice. You suggested yourself that it might not be, so I hope you'll accept this as constructive criticism, because I think you meant it for the best.
Much better advice would be to eat solid, balanced meals and snacks -- three meals, and three snacks per day -- so that you don't get so hungry that you binge. That's the advice given by dietitians, and that's the advice given in eating disorder programs. It's good advice. Any time you try to restrict to lose weight, you set yourself up for a binge. A lot of eating disorder specialists say that, eventually, all anorexics begin to binge (and generally purge) because no one can restrict consistently without beginning that cycle.
Thanks for the great advice above.
Posted by Deneb on November 19, 2006, at 16:22:45
In reply to Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by Deneb on November 18, 2006, at 15:52:43
I found this:
http://www.pale-reflections.com/bulimia.asp?page=5
Associated dangers
Important notice
Please seek qualified medical advice before following any guidelines you find here.Any eating disorder carries with it lots of obvious, and sometimes less obvious, dangers. Bulimics almost inevitably encounter health problems at some point. Many of these problems are minor, but others can be extremely serious and may even lead to death. Let's take a look at some potential dangers of bulimia...
Tooth decay
Repeated vomiting can quickly cause cavities and tooth decay. This is because the stomach acid erodes the enamel on teeth. Often, the first person to raise their suspicions about the sufferer's bulimia is their dentist. If you are bulimic, it is recommended that you do NOT brush your teeth straight after vomiting. Rather, you should drink water instead, as this will be gentler on your teeth and help replenish lost fluids.Dehydration
The healthy functioning of cells and tissues is dependent upon a certain level of water content in the body. Also, salt and other minerals need to be kept within a narrow range. In a person who has become dehydrated, it's possible they are suffering from a depletion in salt as well as water. You should drink a minimum of 64 fl. oz. (or 1.5 litres) a day, and even more during hot temperatures. Long-term dehydration can ultimately lead to kidney failure. Amongst bulimics, dehydration usually occurs because the stomach is being emptied of its gastric fluids.Inflammation & rupture of the esophagus
Stomach acid irritates the esophagus, which can cause inflammation and raw areas, sometimes making swallowing painful. Of greater concern is a rupture of the esophagus, because this can be fatal in some cases. A Mallory-Weiss tear is the technical term for a the rupture of tearing of the mucous membrane of the esophagus at its junction with the stomach. It is caused by repeated vomiting (although it is possible for it to occur after just one purging episode) and the person will have bright red blood in their vomit. Although a tear often heals itself after a few days, this is NOT ALWAYS THE CASE AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU ARE VOMITING BLOOD.†Irregular or abnormally slow heart rate
Purging can lead to potassium depletion, which in turn can cause problems with the heart. Equally, starving oneself can also lead to an irregular or slow heart rate, which can mean that the heart muscle is undergoing changes. This is likely to lead to low blood pressure and, the lower blood pressure and heart rate goes, the greater the risk of heart failure.Heart failure
The heart muscle is extremely sensitive and can become thin and flabby from nutrional deficiency. A lack of calories and protein can have a negative effect on the heart, and body chemicals may become so imbalanced that heart failure occurs.¹Stomach ulceration
A peptic ulcer refers to an area of the stomach or duodenal lining (the tube that leads away from the stomach) which becomes eroded by stomach acid. These are known as stomach and duodenal ulcers, collectively known as peptic ulcers. The symptoms can vary, with some people not noticing anything out of the ordinary but others may vomit blood and experience abdomen or chest pains. The pain is usually increased when the individual eats or drinks. Peptic ulcers can be serious and need immediate attention if you are vomiting blood or passing digested blood in your stools.²------------------------------------------------------------------
STARTING RIGHT NOW, NO MORE PURGING!!!It's not worth it. One immediate consequence is enamel erosion. I'm not going to damage my teeth any further! From now on, no more purging, no matter what! If it means getting fat for a while, so be it! I'm going to beat this! Even if I binge, I'm not going to purge.
Deneb*
Posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 16:33:57
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-( » adrift, posted by Racer on November 19, 2006, at 14:24:44
> > It is much easier said then done, but if you can try to arrange your day so that you are not at home just sitting around, it will absolutely help.
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> That's great advice.Thanks
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> > this may be terrible advice, I hope it isn't, but I don't have issues with bulimia so Im not sure how it goes exactly. If you do choose to binge on all that crappy food, then dont eat dinner. Balance out your calories that way.
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> And I'm sorry to say that this isn't great advice. You suggested yourself that it might not be, so I hope you'll accept this as constructive criticism, because I think you meant it for the best.
Just to clarify, if this were a post about anorexia, I would never have said that! My food issue is around restricting so that's what I can relate to. When I have dinner plans where I know I have to eat a lot of food, I won't eat that day or maybe just some fruit. But in the end all the food that I eat at the dinner probably makes up for my daily caloric intake. But I don't see that as dangerous advice for someone stuggling with bulimia. Bulimia is about eating and vomiting. So where my suggestion is coming from is the idea that, if she were to binge consuming lots of calories and not purge, and then presumably not necessarily being hungry for the next meal there is not a caloric need for those calories. I was just suggesting it in the sense that, if it will help you to not purge, then don't add any more calories until you need them again. I don't eat on a fixed meal schedule so when I say "skip dinner", I don't mean starve yourself. we all eat differently and on different schedules and my dinner might be someone else's evening snack and vice versa.
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> Much better advice would be to eat solid, balanced meals and snacks -- three meals, and three snacks per day -- so that you don't get so hungry that you binge. That's the advice given by dietitians, and that's the advice given in eating disorder programs. It's good advice.
It is good advice, my nutritionist tried to hammer that into my head, but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. It makes me obsessed with food to eat that way. there are probably others who can't do that way of eating as well, I was just offering another alternative in which I by no means meant to imply starve yourself, in case that is what came across.>Any time you try to restrict to lose weight, you set yourself up for a binge. A lot of eating disorder specialists say that, eventually, all anorexics begin to binge (and generally purge) because no one can restrict consistently without beginning that cycle.
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> Thanks for the great advice above.That is true, although one person's binge is very differenet from another persons binge. I think many people who are restricting end up binging, but the binge may be on a "normal" portion of food, rather then a "binge" amount of food.
when I suggested I was giving terrible advice it was because I wasn't sure what she was describing as a binge. If there is not adequate food intake in the day then skipping a meal or a previously planned portion of food would not be wise. There are so many forms of eating disorders and I do know that often for people with bulimia they struggle with overing, which is what it sounded like was going on. Sometimes people feel pressure to eat at set times, even if they aren't hungry, that is also not necessarily healthy. We should eat when we are hungry and stop when we are full. Well, actually before we feel both of those sensations. My point, it is very very dangerous to purge!!! and finding alternative ways to keep yourself from doing that without starving oneself seems ok? Anyway, I needed to explain myself.
And of course I took it as you meant it.
:-)
Posted by ElaineM on November 20, 2006, at 18:16:33
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-( » Racer, posted by adrift on November 19, 2006, at 16:33:57
I think you both gave some excellent advice. I'll toss my own piddly 2cents into the pile. Ideally, I think it's true that we should all be aiming towards one day being able to eat what is needed when we're hungry. The cr@ppy thing is that that's usually the very last thing to happen in someone trying to recover from disordered eating.
From only the programs I've done myself, (though it tends to be standard) the treatment and advice for anorexics, bulimics, and obese patients was the exact same - because there's only one way to eat normally. We were told that people who are actively symptomatic as restricters, bingers and purgers must adhere to pre-planned choice amounts (certain portions of different kinds of food are considered interchangeable, and you must have a certain variety of choice categories in a day) and strictly scheduled times (ie, meals and snacks). I found this maddening every single time I started -- Why am I "gorging" myself when I'm not really hungry?!. But the philosophy is that once a person has an active ED they've, not only mentally, but physically have lost the ability to recognize, obey and respect hunger and satiety cues. It's like they must be forcefully drilled into our heads again. Racer, did you find your dietician helpful with this? Eating "normal" snacks and meals often, is the best, if not the only, way to stop bingeing.
When you regimentize meals and take away the option of bartering/rationalizing... you take the control of food intake away from yourself and any ED influenced thoughts. Being anorexic, I used to get uncomfortably full on very little. I used to eat until I was nearly sick in all my programs (to be fair I was also on weight-gain). But I had to expand my stomach, retrain my head to realize that (eventually) they were feeding me normal amounts for an adult female my age and height (which they adjusted for). Unfortunately, that's what alot of AN (and B) are afraid of -- they don't *want* to get accustomed to eating normal amounts. I remember being terrified when being discharged that I had grown used to eating "so much" food. I used to blame the strict eating plans for making me obsessed with food, but the therapist said, "You were already obsessed with food. That's why you came to us". Of course it was true. Once I accepted that this type of eating was what I had to do, no choice whatsoever, it (eventually) took the pre-worrying out of it. Obviously the post-eating worry was still raging, but again, that may be with me forever -- it's learning to cope with that that's the crux of recovery. That's the long-term stuff. They used to tell us that it could take a good year before our own natural cues would be dependable (and that's only if you stay symptom-free). Part of maintenance is learning and planning (ironically enough) how to be spontaneous and flexible with the meal plan -- though that usually comes much later.
Also, in terms of avoiding binges, it's best to not have off-limit foods. Although, that would be where the huge amount of coping strategies comes in. Very early in her recover on her own, one woman's mother would have the "high energy" foods physically locked in a cupboard and give her one portion whenever the mealplan, that they had taped to the fridge, called for. After a few weeks, they worked on leaving the cupboard unlocked for certain lengths of time (gradually increasing that). Eventually, there was no lock at all -- some slips now and then, but that was expected, and something to work on too during meetings.
Adrift, your idea of leaving the house is exactly what many of the women did. Though if your urges are strong Deneb (especially in the beginning) you could have someone "in on your struggle" stay with you. It's best to get as many people helping with your pro-recovery side as possible.
Deneb, I just wanted to say that you did an amazing job those days that you binged but didn't purge. THe more you can make purging not an option, the more your anti-bingeing side will strengthen. Seperating the urge and the behaviour is one of the first things people trying to recover start working on -- so it's really great that you've started to do that on your own. To gain some confidence, try and see if you can equal or go longer purge-free. Keep trying. Your health is worth the hard struggle.
((((Deneb)))) [who's okay with hugs right]
*safe hugs* for (((Adrift))) [if you're okay with that.]
[By the way, you were having a hard time lately. How's it going these days?]encouraging tip of the head for Racer :-)
blove EL
Posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 10:33:04
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by ElaineM on November 20, 2006, at 18:16:33
>>>> it's best to not have off-limit foods.
Oops, I think that may have sounded wrong. I meant, it's best to not categorize any food as off-limits.
Sorry.
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 19:02:30
In reply to clarification, posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 10:33:04
I hate myself. I just promised to never purge again and I did, twice today. I hate myself. I've eaten 3000 kcal so far today.
I worry about my teeth, my stomach, my esophagus, my electrolytes and heart. I'm afraid I'm going to drop dead. I keep promising myself I will stop, but even with the threat of possible death I still purge.
Teri Schiavo was bulimic and she suffered permanent brain damage from a heart attack that resulted from her bulimia. I don't think I'm throwing up often enough for that to happen to me, but maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I purged 6 times last week.
I don't want to die. When people die I think they are gone forever. Ame Sans Vie just died. He was around my age. I could die too. I hate death. I wish people never have to experience the death of anything or anyone they love or like.
Tell me there's hope for me. :-( This whole purging thing has gotten me down. Are there any success stories?
I'm so scared. :-( Is 6 times a week enough to risk electrolyte imbalances?
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 19:50:58
In reply to Tell me there's hope, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 19:02:30
I'm getting pretty scared right now. I'm afraid I can't stop purging. The thought of telling my Mom about this is crossing my mind. I don't want her to know, but I'm also afraid I'm getting worse. I wish someone could keep an eye on me for several weeks to stop me from binging and purging. I know my Mom can't be there for me 24/7 and I don't want to place a burden on her.
If I were super rich I would seriously consider staying at an ED treatment place for several weeks, just to get out of my bad habit. I want to nip this at the bud. I'm so out of control. :-( I would want to help others too if I had the money.
I'm thinking of telling my Mom if I purge again. Do you think this is a good idea?
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 20:10:36
In reply to Re: Tell me there's hope, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 19:50:58
OK, this might be a stupid question, but does anyone here think there is a possibility that getting attention on the Eating Board is somehow reinforcing my bulimia?
I don't think it is, but I can't be 100% sure. I do crazy things for attention.
Deneb*
Posted by adrift on November 21, 2006, at 20:12:27
In reply to Re: Spoke too soon. :-(, posted by ElaineM on November 20, 2006, at 18:16:33
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> *safe hugs* for (((Adrift))) [if you're okay with that.]
> [By the way, you were having a hard time lately. How's it going these days?]
>Good advice, Thanks for the hug. Im hanging in there. Thanks for asking. How are you?
Posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 20:30:01
In reply to Re: Tell me there's hope, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 19:50:58
I've seen purgers have success at stopping (as far as I know of them now). The earlier you treat a disorder the better - better chance at recovery.
Deneb, how is your eating? If you were in the programs I was in (and not on weight gain), they would tell you to be eating more than 1200 calories (thought I can't for the life of me remember how they altered for height),spread out over a day - EVERY single day. Including a portion of "high energy" items. Anything less would be considered a dieting level, and setting the stage for symptoms.You CAN get better. It happens. But you have to want it. Really really want it. Be willing to risk whatever recovery means (for ex, not weighing your dream weight, eating regularly, committing to coping strategies, enlisting more help...)
I seriously think you should either add on a therapist to your pdoc sessions, or increase the number and frequency you have with her now. I would do that first and/or mention it to your pdoc first before telling your mom. She will be able to help you plan what to say to your mom, and how to deal with your family's reaction if it isn't what you'd expected. THough, you know your mom better than me. If you know she'd only be supportive then maybe it's best for you to tell her now.
Purging is so terribly dangerous. It's so instantly destructive to your body. I don't know where you live, but perhaps your pdoc would know of places or programs (they come in different levels too, not only residential) that offer sliding scales. Or maybe your family has good insurance. Ask her to see if she can find out more about local resources for you.
I'm proud of you for wanting to attack this head on. Going into recovery on my own for the first time was the f*cking hardest thing I'd ever had to do in my life up until then. And I was scared sh*tless. But I was truely terrified by what I was doing to my body, and the results I was seeing, and I didn't want to die yet. IF you can't get your purging under control you should probably tell your dentist (though they can usually tell on their own). My teeth got absolutely destroyed by malnutrition - which also happens when you don't allow nutrients to be absorbed (in addition to acid damage from throwing up). It's better to risk a little humility now then have to deal with the root canals later. Bleck. (Root canals & extractions = *shudders*)
((((D))))
blove, EL
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 20:30:50
In reply to My bulimia and the eating board, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 20:10:36
On second thought, "No."
My bulimia is not affected by the eating board. When I purge I don't think, "Now I'll have something to write about on the eating board." I don't think of Babble at all when I binge and purge.
Deneb*
Posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 20:45:03
In reply to Re: My bulimia and the eating board, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 20:30:50
>>>>>I don't think it is, but I can't be 100% sure. I do crazy things for attention.
I'm confused now.
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What do you think? What does your pdoc think?>>>>does anyone here think there is a possibility that getting attention on the Eating Board is somehow reinforcing my bulimia?
Plus, I don't know how to theorize and hypothesize an answer to that question while ensuring I'm "civil". I wasn't too good at walking that line before apparently, even when I was attempting to, so I'm uneasy responding to a judgement question like that.
D, what's going on?
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 21:10:22
In reply to Re: My bulimia and the eating board » Deneb, posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 20:45:03
I'll explain in a Babblemail.
Posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 21:21:57
In reply to Re: My bulimia and the eating board » Deneb, posted by ElaineM on November 21, 2006, at 20:45:03
I'm confusing correlation with causation.
I'm grasping at straws to try to explain my ED. Just because I purge more when I come here does not mean that coming here causes my purging.
Deneb*
Posted by Racer on November 22, 2006, at 1:21:06
In reply to Re: My bulimia and the eating board, posted by Deneb on November 21, 2006, at 21:21:57
> Just because I purge more when I come here does not mean that coming here causes my purging.
>
>Answer? Yes, I do think that getting attention on this board is bad for you. And if you purge more when you come here, then yes -- this board is increasing your problem.
I agree with Elaine: get a therapist, or see your pdoc more often. I'd add that DBT would be a good model for you, too, as it teaches skills for coping with stress.
Although I realize that this is skirting the line of the guidelines, you asked what people thought. I think, from watching your behavior here and at another board, that you have a significant problem which you're not dealing with, and that instead, you focus attention on problems that may or may not exist. Maybe if you put some of that energy into facing your underlying problem, the other things would go away.
Also, Deneb, the other thing I've observed about you is that you really seem to be hungry for negative attention -- it's not enough to have attention for being funny or smart, you need to get sympathy of a sort. It's like the breast cancer scare, or now bulimia -- it seems as though you enjoy the sick role, the role of a child, or a supplicant. You don't seem to want to interact as equals with others, if that makes sense?
You've babblemailed me asking if I was ignoring you. Yes, and largely because of a lot of what you've written here on this board. I don't think that getting attention on this board is good for you -- I think you'll continue to engage in behaviors harmful to yourself in order to continue getting attention here.
If you want my attention, Deneb, you can have it -- but only if you approach me as someone who is, like me, reaching for health. As long as it seems to me that you're looking for attention by being "sick," I've got other places to devote my attention.
Peace
Posted by Deneb on November 22, 2006, at 14:58:10
In reply to Re: My bulimia and the eating board, posted by Racer on November 22, 2006, at 1:21:06
Thanks for letting me know Racer. I do appreciate it. I really do want to stop my bulimia and all contributing factors must be considered.
Dr. Bob, please don't get Racer into trouble, I asked my question and I expected a reply.
Deneb*
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