Posted by verne on November 2, 2005, at 17:12:12
In reply to Re: Non-12 Step » mama141, posted by ClearSkies on November 2, 2005, at 13:41:46
Like you, I would often race to the liquor store (for me, beer-getting place) right after an AA meeting. Especially if they gave me a coin or I was celebrating a milestone like a week or month.
I've never seen so many people jazzed up on coffee and cigarettes, consumed with not-drinking. I tried to go to the non-smoking meetings, never having smoked myself. (except pot) But the non-smoking meetings were only once a week. (maybe that was a good thing and I drank less often)
For me sobriety became a lot easier after a spiritual experience. There really is more to the world than what we can see - I just don't have a name for it.
I don't have a name for a "higher power" - I don't even like that label - but can't deny something spiritual happened to me and not drinking got a whole lot easier. It's really beyond worldly comprehension and definitions.
One problem I see in discussions about anything spiritual is that talking about it reduces spirit to something tangible, something definable, squeezing something that can't be seen or measured, into something understandable and finite.
It's beyond reason and just needs to be experienced. That's where the letting go of the self's imagined "power", and surrendering everything - even reason - is just enough of a crack in the old paradigm for the light to penetrate the darkness.
Verne
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