Posted by alexandra_k on November 2, 2005, at 13:54:21
In reply to Re: Non-12 Step, posted by CleverGuy on November 1, 2005, at 18:08:16
> Well to further explain Nietzsche's "God is Dead", he was mostly predicting the eventual death of the God-Archetype, replaced with the ultimate truth of science... It was a prophecy that as humans became more advanced, had more time to pontificate, more time to scientifically explain the world's mysteries, the God-Being's purpose as the "only answer" would reciprocally fade. Unfortunately, I bet you can turn on the news right now and see just how wrong Nietzsche was. The world is alive with god and his defenders, killing in his name.....Blah. I am ranting.
LOL!!
What I'm objecting to is the notion that god was alive in the first place. see... the statement 'god is dead and we have killed him' entails that he was alive in the first place in order for us to have killed him.yes, we have the idea of god. freud actually had a fairly interesting theory as to how we got to that... when we are little we idealise our parents and think of them as gods... then we get a little older and see that they have limitations and are fallible. but we project that ideal out there and end up with... the ideal of god.
but no matter how much we believe in that ideal... it has reality AS AN IDEA and no reality IN THE WORLD (in the sense that there is no mind independent thing in the world that answers to the properties that are considered to be essential to god).
So... He was never alive for us to have killed him.
And... We still have the idea (and probably always will) even if its just a historical notion like Pan or Apollo or Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy or something like that.But my problem is...
I can be a little too literal sometimes.hmm. alchohol. can't tolerate too much of it terribly well myself...
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