Posted by mama141 on November 2, 2005, at 9:12:23
In reply to Re: Non-12 Step, posted by CleverGuy on November 1, 2005, at 21:18:17
Hi all,
I have been following your posts with interest. Mainly I am interested because, after over twenty years of "powerless-over-our-disease" talk, I one day just up and "quit" AA. (My friends who remain on "the program" all think I must be drunk out of my mind in some gutter somewhere) well, surprise, I am not!!
What is REALLY funny here is, that besides finding the "disease concept" totally outrageous, the mindless-rote jabbering boring, and the whole thing just plain arrogant, I quit for pretty much the totally opposite reason all of you did. I AM a believer and find the 12step thing ANTI-RELIGIOUS!! (I respect your beliefs, so let's not make this a religion/faith thing OK?)
Oh yeah, the real frosting on the cake was the day I was parking my car at the strip mall where the liquor store is, who should I see coming out of the liquor store but this woman who "claimed" 35 years of "sobrity"!! How she would pontificate at meetings, so holierthanthou, self rightous. Enough to make you puke. If you called her on the phone all she knew how to do was parrot the "dont drink dont think go to meetings" stuff.
Now, I just dont drink, and since "coming out" I have met a number of people who either just quit one day, or went from heavy daily drinking, to "social drinking" And to think that I swallowed that AA-BABBLE for all those years!! (no offense to this wonderful site intended) MAMA> Disease and Real disease..... I didn't mean to make that arbitrary, if it was at all. The comment stems from the aforementioned website, rational.org, and their contention that addiction is not a disease at all. My point was to show the absurdity of 12 stepper's assertion that addiction is a disease just as CF: out of one's hands, an affliction, completely uncontrollable.
poster:mama141
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