Posted by tealady on October 2, 2004, at 19:38:22
In reply to Re: More stuff on lithium..interesting read from other, posted by TeeJay on September 27, 2004, at 6:43:21
> "Run across any bears? Might be some in the US and Canada? Do they have any in Europe at all?"
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> Nah, not seen any! Might be the odd rampant Englishman growling around though if he keeps up with the selenium supplements ;-))Hmm Now I just need to know how to deal with bears and any "odd rampant Englishman growling around "..I wonder if you handle them similar
ANyOne in the Americas know what to do if you come across a growly bear? Can they outrun YOu? ..I guess they can climb trees too?
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> I hear ya about the magnesium and ate mag glycinate tabs like smarties for some months a couple of years back but with little effect (couldnt even seem to find my tolerance level of them either (took 6 400mg tabs often with no effect)) also tried it with a a heavyish dose of niacinamide too and not much difference. Maybe the results may be slightly different now I dont smoke perhaps?My guess would be that you didn't absorb those mag.supps for some reason..maybe they were bound with cement? Some tablets I don't absorb or the fillers even have properties that counteract what you are taking...I end up taking liquids or powders or capsules containing powder a lot to skip the binders/fillers.
You should really only need say 200mg magnesium citrate (even 100mg might do it..1 tablet of the kind I got in England) if taken with the zinc and say 50mg B6 and a multiB/C (say levels 10-25).
Then (if you have a bath and not just a shower)..epsom salts in the bathwater occasionally is a way to get some magnesium..you can even on ocasion add a bit to drinking water..not too much though..I don't trust too much sulphates.
If you need more magnesium it's probably best to take some with calcium in a calc/mag combo at night..and if yoou think you need to slow down a bit ..like with the lithium, I'm not sure but calcium carbonate might be just the thing to take at night. Even magnesium oxide gets absorbed partly. I can notice a difference with it ..and so can others...it's just not the best type around if you have a choice...don't much over here.
Reason for not taking the B6 by itself is..it depletes the other B's and then you get some deficiency symptoms of the other b's...especially B1, B2, B3, B5, etc<g>..some of which could cause the symptoms you were/are experiencing.
And you usually don't need a real lot as they are synergistic? and you need the balance I was trying to explain for the best results.That n- acetyl-cysteine looks like it fits in real well with the selenium and this "group" of supps(zinc, B6, Multi, mag),.
And looking at a post by Ray.....
"N acetyl cysteine has been mentioned on this thread recently and both selenium and NAC are needed for glutathione peroxidase synthesis"
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"Several foods contain naturally occurring glutathione, including avocado, watermelon, asparagus, acorn squash, strawberries, orange, tomato, cantaloupe, okra, peach, zucchini, and spinach."well I've never heard of acorn squash or okra and I haven't seen a cantaoupe..but I always feel better after strawberries and watermelon. ..and I use avocado instead of butter , say for steak sandwiches (steak is relatively cheap in Oz BTW). And oranges and peaches have always been up there too with feel good after eating foods.
spinach ain't..tried a lot last year and it did something dreadful..forgot what now..probably the oxalic acid, unsure.But I remember those delicious STRAWBERRIES in Wales and England,..huge and beautiful..and ended up eating a huge punnet at the airport before going thru customs that I'd bought that day...together with snow peas, etc..LOL
> Thanks for the info Jan.
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> I've run out of the ginkgo now so will continue with what I have for a few days and then drop one supplement out every few days until I find which one seems to be causing the problem.
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Only one problem with that way instead of building up gradually, It can take a few days(or even up to 3 weeks) before the effects of something that is a problem wears off?Hope you are feeling better,
Jan
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