Posted by tealady on October 1, 2004, at 19:17:38
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? » karaS, posted by Simus on October 1, 2004, at 7:48:03
> > > I have tested normal for thyroid hormones with the exception of TSH, which was out of range high but not extremely so. I never fit the profile of someone with thyroid problems (I lean more towards symptoms of hyper though), but my symptoms line up exactly with those of adrenal fatigue. I never knew what to do with the high TSH info. My naturopathic dr said I was hypothyroid based on my TSH, and gave me bladderwrack (iodine source) which I never had the courage to take because I have never done well with iodine or thyroid hormones. Now I have hope that I am similar to cases 5&6 in the study whose TSH normalized when the adrenal function improved. That finally makes sense.
> Could be pituitary... I wonder if that would be difficult to test for...
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> Simus
>Usually with pit. problems your TSH would be too low..as the pit. makes the TSH and the usual thing is when it is having problems it doesn't make much..so you get very low TSH together with low Ft3 and low FT4 ..as no TSH to stimulate thyroid to make hormones (from memory)
This is opposed to low TSH in hyperthyroid together with high FT3 where the feedback of high FT3/FT4 (or is it just T3/T4, no idea) to the pit. is suppressing the pit. output of TSH.Your TSH is not really very high (although I'd be dead before mine got there I suspect). A heck of a lot of endos won't treat for hypo with a TSH under 10..the one I first went to likes to wait until your TSH is over 100..maybe that cuts down his patient waiting list (kidding!. I guess it keeps most of the patients he treats to plain hypothyroid patients though.)
I thought maybe the pdrugs you were taking might possibily be interfering causing your pit to receive modified feedback and it therefore raises your TSH..causing you to maybe make slightly high levels of thyroid hormones..hence how you feel.
You really can't tell much without an FT3?
apsirin, alcohol, dopamine, tyrptophan , cortisol etc..probably everything probably alter the feedback/levels within the HPA-thyroid
"axis"..in other words..I don't think the HPA axis or the hypothalmus-pit-thyroid regulation are independant of everything else.Still it's good to rule out other possibilites, like the antibodies too...or even low ferritin, selenium, zinc or other mineral levels which stop optimal thyroid hormone production and usage.
Although in your case , if you are feeling a tad hyper in symptoms you may find your ferritin is on the high side.Unfortunately nothing in our body is isolated..much as the medical profession likes to categorize..but it's horribly confusing to try to put it together..so I see why they like to break it up.
I get lost.
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