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Re: Sleep Problems, Ron » Larry Hoover

Posted by johnj on December 14, 2003, at 14:55:50

In reply to Re: Sleep Problems » Ron Hill, posted by Larry Hoover on December 13, 2003, at 17:25:13

HI Larry (and Ron too)

Just got back on and read the thread between you two. I hope you both are doing well and we all find our healing path. Sometimes despair is so great.

larry, well it seems you and I are in the same boat as far as the sleep things goes. I have struggled trying to find something for the last 2.5 years.

I have been away for awhile and for the last 9 weeks have been waiting to do my sleep study. I did it last week and the results, or lack thereof, were almost devastating. I expected something and the only thing I had was a lack of deep sleep,not caused by sleep apnea. I had hoped for some dx and there was none. The only thing that keeps me going is the remeron giving me kind of a "who cares attitude". I seem to have to numb myself to stay functional.

When I added 15mg of remeron last spring and started using a mouth guard since I grind my teeth(I probably mentioned it before). But, I lost the mouth guard and slowly started to feel worse, hence the doc thinking I had apnea. For about two months I was yawning naturally and sleeping through my alarm. Everythin took a dive when I lost my mouth guard. So the dentist made me a new one, different style, and it gave me so much tension in my forehead.

The excercise still makes my insomnia worse, just not that day it happens a day or so later. I think the lack of deep sleep is what hurts me. My body is repairing itself. The one non-drug, supplement thing I long for eludes me still. The fatigue and muscle loss concern me a great deal. All I get from the docs are "excercise will help". Well it used to but not anymore. It is tough to know what to do. I sometimes think maybe paxil could help the anxiety/gad, but ssri's scare me and cymbalta is still a know show.

Larry, is your PTSD causing you anxiety and hence insomnia? I seem to "sleep" 7 hours, but wake up bushed. I also have funny eye twitches, and muscle twitches from lack of sleep. Lack of sleep takes it toll. Have you tried a low dose of remeron? I know you tried it in the past, but at what dose? At least I get to sleep it just isn't as restorative as I need. I also take lithobid and tranzene(which the doc thinks) might mess up my deep sleep.

Take care of yourself and hopefully I will have the energy to keep looking. My wife is not handling things very well and I sometimes wonder if she will leave. I wouldn't blame her as the meds make me intolerable and grumpy and short tempered. Thanks to remeron my sex drive has diminished to almost nothing.

Peace to you both, and may a miracle find us all.

johnj


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