Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2014, at 9:14:20
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2014, at 1:45:54
> > A. What is your rationale for not attending to the statement when it was posted before it was archived, if you have one.
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> No one (except maybe you) notified me of it.
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> > B. Would you be willing to post your archives of notifications so that readers could have that information to make their own determination as to why you did not post your tag-line to "Please be civil" before it was archived?
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> No, they're not public.
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> > C. You have posted a type of repudiation to posts that were archived in this discussion already. What is the difference, if any, between those and the one that calls me a disturbed person?
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> Which ones were the other ones, could you remind me?
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> > D. Would you agree that since you agree that what has happened with just that post, that you could be seen by a subset of readers to be wanting to allow hatred posted against me to stand as that since the statement is not sanctioned, readers could think that it is not against your rules and they could think that you are ratifying the libel?
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> Yes, that could happen.
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> > E. Would you be willing to treat that statement in the same manner as the ones that you have already posted some sort of repudiation to as seen on the top of the faith board
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> No, I see the FAQ as sufficient for other boards.
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> > I do not have any recollection of you striking any rules from your TOS here.
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> I don't believe I did.
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> > What stands that I know of, and then others could also know of, is that posters are to be civil at all times
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> Yes.
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> > and that you do not wait to sanction a statement that could put down/accuse another because one match could start a forest fire,
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> That used to be my policy, but I don't think that's in the FAQ.
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> > and that you have a notification policy that you will act upon those notifications
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> Yes.
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> > but that you give yourself the option to act on my notifications or not because it will be good for you ... to ignore my pleas ...
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> I give myself the options of acting and not acting on all notifications.
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> > > C. The new policy is:______________________
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> I was recently reminded of a policy that I like:
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> > > See everything; turn a blind eye to much; correct a little.
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> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/12/23/131223fa_fact_carroll
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You now state here that you had an excuse for allowing the defamation posted about me here to remain unsanctioned as you say that it is archived now. Your excuse for allowing the defamation to remain un repudiated by you while it could be seen before it was archived is that:
[..No one (except maybe you} notified me of it..]
Let us see if a reasonable reader could think that what you wrote is a lie or not. In order to understand what you posted here about the archives and notifications, let us look at your TOS/FAQ here.
Your FAQ states something like that you say that {If you miss a post} and it is archived, you may not address it there. So if you are saying that you missed the post in question here, that is the false statement that I am a disturbed person which could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held and can induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings about me, a subset of readers could think that your statement that you missed the statement is a lie. They could have a rational basis to think that because the statement is in discussion on the board between us. You have not used a specific meaning for what {missed} means, so we go by the context as seen. And it is plainly visible that we are in discussion concerning the statement. You then go even further and state your excuse for not sanctioning the post by saying:
[..No one (except maybe you) notified me of it)..]
Your clause {except maybe you) could be thought by a subset of readers as suspect to deception being used by you here to persuade readers that you did not know if you did or did not receive a notification from me concerning the libel used here about my character that you allow to be seen as civil where it is originally posted. They could have a rational basis to think that because you use the word {maybe}, which could be thought by these readers to mean that you want readers to think that you may not have received a notification by me concerning this post in question. But those readers could know that your TOS/FAQ states that if one wants to be *sure* that you know of a post to use the notification feature to you. And this now brings up the crux of this issue. For if the notification was sent by me, then your TOS says that you will be sure to know it. But you write here, {except *maybe* you} which could imply to readers that you do not know one way or the other if you did or did not receive a notification from me concerning that post.
For readers to conclude that it is or is not a lie that you have an excuse to leave the defamation to be seen as civil in the post where it is originally posted, by invoking that you have a self-made rule to allow you to leave defamation unsanctioned if there was not a notification sent to you concerning that post, could be settled by you here now by you posting that you did or did not have a notification from me concerning that statement as can be seen in your secret archives of notifications. I am asking for you to now post:
A. If you do or do not have a notification from me concerning the statement in question
B. If you are willing to turn over your archive of notifications to an impartial body for discovery
C. Why you posted what you did here {except maybe you}, if you would not have sanctioned the statement anyway even if there is the notification from me on the grounds that you state that you will use the discriminatory policy to act on notifications except for some of Lou's.
D. What the good is by you leaving the defamation against me to be seen as civil in the post where it is posted originally, since your thinking is that what you do will be good for this community as a whole, and for readers to trust you at that.
E. Why do you want readers to trust you in what you do in your thinking here if defamation is allowed to be seen as civil where it is originally posted if your rule is to not post anything that could lead one to feel accused or put down?
Lou PIlder
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1068933.html