Posted by Lou Pilder on July 24, 2014, at 19:16:47
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion- » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on July 24, 2014, at 10:25:23
> > > The first and overriding part of your TOS is that you state that the goal here is for support. Rational readers could understand that you mean that unsupportive statements will be repudiated by you
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> > I agree. But it doesn't say every single unsupportive statement will be repudiated.
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> > > And further, you state that if a statement stands without sanction, it is not against your rules.
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> > Where do I state that?
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> > > Another aspect of the issue here is that you state that notifying the administration gets a post to you and your deputies. This gives an expectation that you will act on the notification, and in fact, you state that you will.
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> > Where do I state that?
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> > > not only is your opening remarks for what is civil by you that your mission is for support and education, but you also write that the mission here is to exemplify {The Golden Rule}.
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> > That's actually a great point. I'd like to be corrected little by others, so I'm correcting others little. :-)
> >
> > Bob
> >
> Mr. Hsiung,
> You wanted to know where it says that if a statement is un sanctioned, it is not against your rules. Here is the post where I think that reasonable readers could see that you agree.
> Lou Pilder
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/423771.html
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> Mr. Hsiung,
You asked where it could be in you TOS/FAQ that leads readers to the fact that using the notification button gets to you and your deputies.
The factual statement is in your {enforce} section of your TOS/FAQ that says:
[...If you want to make sure I know about a post, use the "notify administrators" button below the post...].
That expectation that the readers have reinforces the mission of the forum, to be supportive. And since you state that by using that feature here, you will be sure that you know about it, that can lead a subset of readers to think that it is a lie if you say that you do not know about the notifications sent to you. They have a rational basis to think that on the grounds that you say that by a member using the notification feature, it is sure that you know about it, as your TOS/FAQ states. If you wanted readers to think that by them using the notification feature that you would {maybe} know about it, the word {sure} would not have been used in your TOS/FAQ. Granted, you could be negligent and even though you knew about what was in the notification, you forgot about it. But forgetting has consequences. And I do not want to be a victim of anti-Semitic violence or want readers to kill themselves, or Jewish readers to feel put down or accused and be made to feel inferior to other human beings because of your negligence because you forgot to act on what was in the notification. But be it as it may be, there could be other reasons that you have that caused you to not act on a notification. And the hand of justice is stayed here to give you an opportunity to sway the readers here that you have an excuse to not respond to notifications, even though your TOS states that you are sure to know about it when one uses the notification feature here. After all, you do say in your TOS/FAQ that you know it when you see it, or not until I see it can I know it.
Your TOS in this respect provides an expectation to readers that you will know of defamation against them, or if their faith is being insulted, posted if they use the notification feature of yours. And later you reinforce the idea that you will act on the notifications, except for some of mine. If that is not true, then a subset of readers could feel deceived by you, and feel that you have not disclosed that they could become a victim of defamation or racial hatred by you allowing defamation and anti-Semitism to stand without sanction where they are originally posted. They have a rational basis for thinking that on the grounds that you state that to be sure that you know about it, use the notification button below the post. And to hide any fact that you really do not intend to honor your own terms of service, could nullify the credibility of your mission here for the forum, for if you allow defamation and anti-Semitism to be seen as not against your rules, the concept of support can become distorted and the forum perverted so as those readers could think that what is being supported is hate.
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
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