Posted by Lou Pilder on January 21, 2014, at 20:20:46
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2014, at 4:05:16
> > > The shield of faith does not stop stones thrown at me here. ... What the shield of faith does do, is to shield me from having hatred infused into me by others.
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> OK, I misunderstood. It protects you from hate, but not from hurt.
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> > E. something else
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> My current idea is:
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> I won't post a repudiation of the first part. If you want to, that's fine. If you chose to let the first part stand, that's fine, too.
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> I won't exactly post a repudiation of the second part, either. I'll address whether saying a God might impose treacherous forms of slavery would be putting down that God. I'm not sure it would be. I don't see saying God imposed suffering on Job as putting down God. Is a treacherous form of slavery so different? It's not clear to me that it is.
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> BobMr Hsiung,
You wrote,[...I won't exactly post a repudiation...I'll address whether saying a God might impose treacherous forms of slavery would be putting down that God...I don't see saying God imposed suffering on Job as putting down God...Is a treacherous form of slavery so different?...].
The post is not about Job. I am the subject person in the post. Your rules are to not post what could put down/accuse another or jump to a conclusion or overgeneralize. To say that Job had suffering imposed by God to him does not mean that all Jews will have suffering imposed upon them. And the subject is not suffering, but slavery imposed to me by God.
The post says that the god that I give service and worship to imposes a treacherous form of slavery to me by saying that I have a burden to save souls. There is no evidence stated to lead to that conclusion. The statement is false and could lead me to feel put down. The rule by you is not to post what puts down, but to not post anything that could lead one to {feel} put down and you also agree that you can not substitute your feelings for other's feelings. There is overgeneralization to apply what happened to Job to all Jews. But it is much more than this. The statement insults that God that the Jews give service an worship to by claiming that God uses a treacherous form of slavery imposed into those that worship Him by using me as an example. The use of {treacherous} is an insult to the {character} of the God in question that the Jews cherish. The statement says that God is a liar and a deceiver and not to be trusted. The claim is false and could arouse anti-Semitic feelings to a subset of people and lead a subset of Jewish readers to feel shame and humiliation and ridicule. You want to allow it? There was a time when it was promulgated throughout the land, propaganda to humiliate the Jews and insult the God that they cherish and to ridicule Jews.
Never again.
Lou Pilder
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