Posted by Lou Pilder on January 18, 2014, at 8:22:53
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2014, at 7:20:04
> > > readers could think that I was just not reading the board then.
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> > your TOS states that if you are not reading, then your deputies do your wishes and act in your behalf. So the subset of readers that know the TOS here ... could think that the statement is conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community
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> That could be a subset. But they would be jumping to a conclusion, too, since it could have been that the deputies weren't reading the board then, either.
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> > You also wrote that what was said about me, I could post a repudiation. But that IMHO could not show that you are not ratifying what is said about me, which is what is in question.
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> I'm not in a position to ratify (or repudiate) what was said about you. How would I know if you were under any burden? Also, I don't see how a repudiation would decrease the respect and regard in which you were held. Nor do I see posting that you're under a burden as libel. Would posting that Job was under a burden be libel?
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> > You also wrote whether a God that imposes burdens is a bad God. But the statement in question uses the word {treacherous} as in a {treacherous form of slavery} that is {imposed} by God.
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> OK, I could address whether saying a God might impose treacherous forms of slavery is putting down that God.
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> > That is a claim that is false, for I am not under any burden from the God that I give service and worship to here for any reason.
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> That's a fine repudiation, could you just post that one sentence on that thread?
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...I am not in a position to ratify (or repudiate) what was said about you...}
and,
[...how would I know if you were under any burden...?]
and,
[...I don't see how a repudiation would decrease the respect and regard in which you were held...]
and,
[...Nor do I see that posting that you are under a burden is libel...]
and,
[...Would posting that Job was under a burden be libel..?]
Let us understand here that I am made the subject by the poster, and that you and your deputies can control the content as seen by the fact that you post to not post anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused, and not to post what could put down those of other faiths, and not to post what could be seen as jumping to a conclusion about someone. You state that you do not wait to sanction a statement that could put down because one match could start a forest fire and you do not wait until the fire is started to sanction a statement that could put down/accuse another. This is further exemplified in the fact that you state that if a statement is seen here unsanctioned by you and your deputies, that readers could think that what is posted is not against your rules and is supportive and will be good for this community as a whole. You also have a notification system to alert posts to you and your deputies that you say that you use except that you give yourself the option to ignore my notifications to you so that it will be good for others to see that you do not have to respond to me.
Since I am the subject person in the statement in question, there is that the poster jumps to a conclusion about me in that what is in question, that the God that I give service and worship to has imposed a treacherous form of slavery upon me, is stated without sanction by you or any of up to six deputies of yours that act in your behalf when you are not on line. You even state here as to how anyone would know if I was under any burden. The statement by the poster is false, and brings me into ridicule, hatred and scorn of others. The statement, on a mental health forum chaired by a psychiatrist with deputies to control the content, offers an expectation of protection from harmful statements to the users of the site. If you and your deputies continue to not post a repudiation of the harmful statement against me, then a subset of readers could think, IMHO, that all of you are being malicious toward me which harms me even more by bringing me into focus as a target that does not get the protection from you and your deputies that others receive as that you post sanctions to other statements that put down or accuse or jump to a conclusion about others here. This is what the crux of libel is. Libel is the writing of a false statement that brings a person into ridicule, humiliation, belittlement and in this case here, the poster insults the God that brought the Israelites out of bondage from slavery in Egypt, which insults the Jews that cherish that God.
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1058882.html