Posted by muffled on December 25, 2010, at 0:14:44
In reply to Re: some kind of Community Council, posted by Dr. Bob on December 22, 2010, at 1:34:49
> > I for one would still like Bob to state an actual figure of what a minimum block would be. SIMPLE numbers, not formulas. This is a HUGE point for me.
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> Could we compromise on a simple formula?*how bout really simple. 1 week. Thats it. If a person is repeatedly causing grief, then the council will handle it and email the problem poster off board and talk to them. If nothing changes, then the block(off board) could be extended. I say off board, cuz having this sort of thing on the boards just invites conflict, and is kinda public shaming.
If a person is totally disruptive, esp ongoingly, then the board may choose to take stronger action.
Probably there needs to be some clarity about a turnaround time btwn PBC and blocks.(eg 48 hrs from time of the post)(unless the poster is still actively posting, in which case we can safely assume they have seen the PBC and are choosing to ignore it...
But always clear and consistant as possible. PBC, then block. PBC, then block. CLEAR. Always a warning PBC-unless its clear the poster is having some serious difficulty, then faster action needs to be taken. And at that, the blocked poster has the opportunity to civilly appeal to council.
I know this all sounds complex and nuts making. But I think once there is more stability and CONSISTANT application of readily understand able 'rules', then there probably be little for the council to do.
But I beleive clarity here is super important, and I wish the bar for civility wasn't so high. Cuz it is at a height that many can't understand. Including me. So often I truly don't undertsand why there is even an issue at all? Itys just too darn complicated for me.
I mean, what the fr*g IS the difference REALLY btwn I felt put down after reading that post, vs, Yours words made me feel belittled???(I don't even knowe if this is a valid example but I forgot to cut the example out of another post and I forgot what it was cuz I didn't understand it...I will post on that thread bout this....)
Anyhow....
> To be clear, when I said I wouldn't override their decisions, I was referring to their primary task, lifting blocks. The above refers to their secondary task, serving as a resource for me. If I ran something by them, and all 5 of them disagreed, but I wasn't persuaded, I might still override them and do what I thought was best. I might have good reasons, too.* I'm sure you would dear....you....'might'...
HA!!!
> I'm not sure we need greater total numbers.*Another question then, since you seem to be forthcomming. Why the tweet buttons then? Was it not enough that we were eminently googlable?
Or maybe you were being the proud parent at the school play that jumps up and says, 'oh thats Johnny, thats MY boy!!!'...>We do always need some new posters, because some old posters are always leaving. And new posters can contribute new perspectives and energy. If there are greater total numbers, then there are more thoughtful and intelligent posts -- and more people benefit. I feel good when people benefit from Babble.
*Really :) Really really true??? That makes you feel good??? Like how? Does your heart kinda...I dunno, but kinda feel weird and that? Like kinda sing?
I find the one limitation of larger numbers of new posters is that some intimacy is lost, and for me, it becomes increasingly hard to 'watch out' for everyone, that noone is left out. I found my time increasing taken up by trying to make sure noone was left out. Then the quality and thoughtfulness that might have gone into my posts(and there fore helpfulness) became greatly reduced, purely because of lack of time. So numbers, once they reach a certain threshhold, DOES decrease the intimacy and depth of communication(posts).
There is a sort of natural 'weeding' out process as well. Sad but true, because no place can be a right place for everybody. Though we can but try...> Great, is there anything else I can clarify?
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> BobYeah, alot, but its late and I still goto figger what we gonna eat for breki tomorrow and my kid is gonna wake me EARLY.
I was at church all evening working and I all wound up and now I goto try and sleep.
My head is spinning.
I dunno if I making ANY sense, goto go.
Thx
M
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