Posted by samplemethod on June 20, 2003, at 13:34:52
In reply to Re: alphalipoic acid » samplemethod, posted by Larry Hoover on June 20, 2003, at 10:12:07
Lar,
Believe me its a real psychoactive feeling.
Its only happened twice though.Theres something going on... I remember some people from other boards telling the same story when they first tried it. But only with some.
Im puzzled, I really interested in what is goin on.
I will try some experiments on myself. I have tried 1000mcg of cyanocobalamin... something has changed but it isnt really a yummy chilled out feeling... I am still takin 200mg ALA with meals.
I know that biotin gets used up with ALA use and I have tried adding that to my regimen but it didnt seem to bring back that yummy feeling.
> > Lar,
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> > I don't think it was just ALA that made the psychoactive effects. I am thinking that ALA allows something to happen, a catalyst, or a rate limiting step synthesiser or something along those lines if you know what I mean.
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> > WHy i think this is that ALA doesnt always produce psychoactive effects and seems to run out of juice if you know what I mean. I reckon this is so cos it uses something up during the yummy psychoactive phase. ANd when I use it again closely afterwards it has nothing to act upon in the above mentioned sorta ways.
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> Still, I can't think of anything that would have the immediate results you describe, and that would also be "used up".
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> > You do know that ALA produces more glutathione right? do u know how much it prouces?
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> I can only say there's a fairly linear dose-response. GSH activity increases proportional to ALA intake.
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> > Also do u know if cyanocobalamin, or the other cobalamins (or the final active ingredient that they all go to), if they are stored up somewhat in the body?
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> Yes, cobalamin is stored by the body, a unique characteristic among the B-vitamins. Cyanocobalamin is stored as cyanocobalamin, rather than as methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin. Cyanocobalamin is produced during the treatment of cyanide poisoning with hydroxycobalamin, and there is substantial urinary excretion, so I'd presume that ingested cyanocobalamin would also spill into urine.
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> I've heard it said that healthy people have a five-year supply of B-12 in their liver, but the assumptions upon which that assertion is based are certainly arguable.
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> Lar
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