Posted by samplemethod on June 20, 2003, at 2:40:18
In reply to Re: Methylcobalamin » Larry Hoover » jrbecker, posted by Ron Hill on June 19, 2003, at 19:46:40
Ok I'm gonna go get some b12 1000 mcg cyanocobalamin chewable tabs today. Cant find methylcobalamin is Aust yet. And im thinkin I housld try it in an easy to get form b4 i shell out to get it imported etc.
I think my intake of ALA will provide enough glutathione to make the methylcobalamin in me.
Now I have a suspicion that someone may be able to inform me on. The first time I took ALA only 100mg, I had a great reaction and felt, nice, rested, powerful, yummy etc. It was actually a huge impact on me.
However when I tried it again... 2 days later...I didnt get the yummy feeling... only an irritable stimulation.
Since then I have been taking like 100mg after meals and finding nothing to happen.
2 days ago I took 200mg ALA when I just began to eat my meal. It was really good... got the yummy feelings once again, and funnilly enough.. stopped eating before I usually would. Probably cos I the satiety I experienced from the ALA effects.
Now I am narrowing down the causes and I am thinking that the ALA allows a steady flow of blood sugar from my intake of food (only if I take the ALA before I start eating)
OR
That the larger doses of ALA create enough glutathione, which apparently according to Lar, is the rate limiting step, in creating methylcobalamin from cyanocobalamin) -- oh and by the way I just read a speculation from a naturopath that some of the good effects from b12 is the trace amounts of cyanide it creates-- but I dunno about that)
Anyway... then in the second case the good feelings are actually coming from the bioavailable b12 ALA allows.
Now - What are your thoughts guys?
> > Lar,
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> > I was curious if you yourself ever tried methylcobalamin and what you thought of it. Wondering if this had any effect on your CFS-like symptoms.
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> > JB
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> JB & Lar,
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> A couple years ago, I started taking 1.0 mg/day of methylcobalamin in a sublingual tablet. I currently take 0.5 mg/day sublingually. The benefit that I experience is noticeable; not profound, but noticeable. YMMV.
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> Lar, thanks for posting your health concerns regarding cyanocobalamin. I've never read this information prior to your post. Initially, I chose to use the methylcobalamin form of B12 because of its higher bioavailability. Unfortunately, the majority of multi-vitamin supplements contain cyanocobalamin which is problematic if your concerns are valid (and I've rarely seen you wrong).
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> Do you take a multi-vitamin in addition to your other supplements? If so, what is your favorite brand? Liquid or tablet? I’ve taken a daily multi-vitamin for years and I’ve recently scoured the nutritional store shelves for a good multi that contains chelated minerals and the like. The product that I’m currently using is the best I’ve come across locally, but there are at least two things I don’t like about it. First, it contains 9 mg of iron (as iron amino acid chelate), whereas I would prefer iron-free. Iron-free products are available, but I’ve not yet found a brand that also meets my other criteria. Second, my current multi contains 75 mcg of cyanocobalamin.
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> For a month or so I took a liquid multi-vitamin. I liked it okay fine, but it’s spendie. I suppose I could bite the bullet and pay the price for a good liquid multi-vitamin and a good liquid multi-mineral. However, the bigger issue is that my wife is already complaining about the amount of refrigerator space I’m taking up with my supplements and a case of Carlson’s fish oil (I buy a case at a time to make it more affordable). But what the heck, what if I just go ahead and put the liquid vitamin/mineral bottles in the fridge? What’s she going to do about it, throw them out? She might threaten to do just that, but she’ll change her mind when I tell her how much they cost.
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> -- Ron
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