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Re: Reality 1 and Reality 2

Posted by alexandra_k on October 11, 2005, at 20:55:42

In reply to Re: Reality 1 and Reality 2, posted by alexandra_k on October 11, 2005, at 20:41:26

and thus...

in studying the reality that interests us...

what is the contribution of world?

(can we say anything about its intrinsic nature)

and what is the contribution of mind?

(can we say anything about its intrinsic nature)

is there any principled way of deciding?

it shouldn't just be an analytic enterprise - should it?

(or maybe... mind/world is just one phenomena. and in reality... there isn't any such thing as mind apart from world and there isn't any such thing as world apart from mind. comperably to how there isn't any such thing as an uninstantiated universal and how there isn't any such thing as a particular without any universals inhering in it)

maybe these distinctions...

are artifacts of mind / language

though if this is the case...

we end up with them being artifacts of world / mind / language

and thus...

we are back to the inexpressible...
we can't talk ABOUT anything...
in order to talk ABOUT things
(in order to even get to things)
one needs to apply (via mind / language)
an identity criterion to the world in order to distinguish accidental from essential properties.

and now...

i've completely lost myself...

i think...
i'm back to the inexpressible
and i think...
i need to take a little babble break...

and i think the problem is that if you imagine what things are like aside from mind / language...

well then you can't even comprehend them (think of them or talk about them)

BY DEFINITION


AAAAAAAAAAAARGH


and with respect to 'it shouldn't just be an analytic enterprise - should it?'

i think the answer is 'yes'

because these are metaphysical questions...
and i can't see how science can help...
because these things transcend science
they lie beyond its limits

and thus what we are left with is an analytic enterprise
and thus the rules of the game are the rules of analytic philosophy
(not the sciences)
and thus we are looking at who has the best theory?????

simplicity
coherance
etc etc

and it is surely possible that there could be multiple metaphysical systems that measure up the same with respect to relevant criteria...

and yet they are incompatable...

and the truth is in seeing the scope of 'best explanation'

and now i really am going away

:-(

 

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