Posted by alexandra_k on December 7, 2004, at 2:50:08
In reply to the moral animal., posted by lostforwards on December 4, 2004, at 21:04:21
> Sex is a part of love, one can come before the other.
But we have managed to divorce one from the other entirely when we are getting off on pictures of women who we don't know anything about.
Animals do this (divorce sex from love). People do too (prostitution, the oldest profession). I just think that we are able to transcend (or at least restrain) our 'animal urges' and I think that in this case it is to do with minimising harm to others.
>I don't see anything ugly about animals acting on their instincts.
I remember being quite horrified to watch some variety of monkey on the discovery channel a while back. There was one male and a whole bunch of females. Three other males came in, killed the male, killed the females children, and raped the females. Perhaps that is anthropomorphic but there was no mistaking the expression of grief.
But then that is what soldiers do when invading (sorry, 'assisting') foreign lands - no? So that is animalistic, but is that acceptable?
> Personally, I get off on women who are smiling or at least enjoying themselves. Negative vibes give me a bad feeling. I couldn't watch porn where a woman was suffering or anybody was suffering against their will.Have you ever smiled for the camera when you weren't happy? Would you do it for x amount of dollars? What if your kid was sick and you didn't have health insurance? What might you do then? My point isn't that ALL people who pose naked and / or engage in sex acts for the camera have this kind of situation going on. My point is how do you know that that isn't happening for the women you are looking at?
It divorces sex from love
It says that sex is mere recreation
It turns the actors into objects
Not people
Not with their own needs
Desires
Dislikes
Opinions
It is dehumanisingI think it displays the worst of us
The fact that it is an acceptable part of society (sorta)
The fact that prostitution is the oldest profession and that there is pretty much nothing that people can do to get rid of it properly
That the internet exists becasue of the money the porn companies make off of it (or maybe thats just a rumour?)Just MHO. I realise that most will disagree with me
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