Posted by verne on December 12, 2006, at 0:15:27
In reply to Re: Kratom » verne, posted by Quintal on December 11, 2006, at 23:02:33
I think I have low tolerance for opiates. I usually got looped and felt no pain on low doses. I had a few morphine shots for one injury or another and a couple weeks of percodan when I had my wisdom teeth pulled many years ago. I may have popped a few codeine but not sure about the dose. I was a cheap pot smoker too. One toke of really good stuff was enough for me. Strong hash made me horizontal for several hours. Yet I always took acid in the 1,000 microgram range and couldn't get enough or quit smiling.
I'm trying to abstain from alcohol so soaking kratom or blue lotus in wine isn't an option for me. I agree, this is the preferred, most effective method. The first Egyptologists (early 1900's) recorded how high they got when they soaked blue lotus (or lily) in wine for a week and drank it. They described a psychedelic and euphoric experience. The Blue Lily at iamshaman did nothing for me. But the Blue Lotus from Nepal definitely has something going for it.
I had the same reaction to the hyped up descriptions at iamshaman - especially with the tea and smoke "blends". I was tempted when I read their sale's pitch but always concluded it sounded bogus. Besides, I've already smoked most of the ingredients in the Druid blend and not convinced they've put together something magical.
I also couldn't find anything to corroborate their write-up about Sugundi Root. In fact, one source seemed to suggest it was Indian Sassafrass or Sasspirilla (sp) or something like it. I'm still not sure what they are selling as "sugundi" root but I have to say it had possibilities.
The roots are so hard they twisted the blades in my nut grinder. I cut and shredded it down to something smokable by hand. I felt a nice buzz but can't remember details. I then tried boiling the rest down to an extract with little success. Gave up and never ordered it again. Wish I knew what it really was.
But iamshaman is good for incense and certain herbs. Always well-packaged and promptly shipped. I get a 10% discount and free shipping.
I have very little experience with opiates but everytime I've used blue lotus (Nelumbo Nucifera) petals (even without the wine soak) I've felt a kind of anesthetic high. I remember comparing it to novocaine. The sensation started in the mouth and spread to my brain. I actually had a kind of flashback to the dentist's office when I was a kid. Wish I could do it with the wine, perhaps, I can find some other way to extract the active ingredients.
I'll try to find the equivalent of the UK "Spice" blend. No hurry though. Looking forward to trying saffron and continuing my *experiments* with various other herbs like albizzia. My queque is full.
verne
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