Posted by verne on December 11, 2006, at 18:07:18
In reply to Kratom » zmg, posted by Quintal on December 9, 2006, at 14:43:27
I tried kratom a few times and noticed a slight opiate effect. I can't remember the doses but I far exceeded the usual both in tea (using the simmer a quart of water with the leaves down to a couple ounces of bitter extract) by chewing, and even trying to smoke it in a waterpipe. But any *high* was really weak and short-lived, followed by a long headache - one lasted 3 days. (and I rarely get headaches)
I got it from www.iamshaman.com They seem to get better marks for quality than most ethnobotanical suppliers.
For me it's not worth the headache or price to continue experimenting. I'm burned out on most of the "enthno"'s. Blue Lotus petals (not the Lily) from Nepal was the only thing that was truly worth smoking and it doesn't come close to pot. I mixed it with daminana or something neutral for burnability. Daminana powder by itself isn't bad in a waterpipe. Nice light sedation with a little body tingle thrown in.
Anyway, if I didn't have klonopin I'd probably be mixing up a smoke mixture of blue lotus http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductUID=1432&ProductCode=BLP-HOZ and damiana.
verne
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