Posted by raybakes on September 28, 2004, at 14:10:19
In reply to tyrosine to Noradrenaline, low pain threshold » raybakes, posted by tealady on September 28, 2004, at 6:41:55
> also I have NO idea of the difference between noradrenaline (or norepinephrine )Yeah I'm the same, they always seem to be lumped together, so don't know of the differences between them - have to look up my A&P book again!
> I do know I can't tolerate stress well..
I can relate to some of that - I can shake if I've had an argument with someone. Usually avoid confrontation at all costs though!! Run away, run away!
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> PS. I've been researching "thyroid" stuff for about 3 years now(been on thyroid hormones that long)..so I'm kinda mostly "up" on thyroid hormones...but I'm sure lost on adrenals, kidneys, liver etc <grin>.I haven't looked too much into the workings of the kidney, but have spent a lot of time studying liver detoxification pathway, if that's any use?
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> RT3 is usually raised in nonthyroidal illness...as in hospital patients. The body decides it does not want a lot of normal T3 around for some reason in illness...maybe that forces a person to rest? as their bodies need the rest to recover?It seems the cytokines of the immune system are involved in raising RT3 (IL1, IL6), which is fine for normal infection, but when we have chronic inflammation and/or infection, it's likely that RT3 will remain high all the time....so many people with chronic health problems seem to have trigger happy immune systems!
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2265.1996.668489.x/abs/
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> My RT3 was in normal range...but then I never got a T3 to compare it with...can't get one in Oz..only FT3.Here in the UK it's sometimes difficult to get good tests - might get great smokies test done through an agency here soon, though.
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> My anti TPO are over 2000 in August...ended up taking some cortisol for a few days...it feels like it lowers the antibodies...but it sure isn't something I recommend doing..or want to do too much.
> If I don't take the cortisol when my antibodies are raging I partly lose my vision...as well as feel rotten..I can actually feel them in my thyroid..feels a bit like tonsillitis in my thyroid.I'm trying some transdermal glutathione at the moment to reduce my antibodies, feels great on my gut so far, though sometimes need to take riboflavin 5 phosphate and selenium solution with it. Glutathione also stops the production of inflammatory cytokines, and reduces TPO antibodies...
In this study, selenium combined with T4 reduced TPO antibodies by nearly 50% - T4 alone reduced them by around 25%.
> At present it's just a scratchy feeling there.
> I have been diagnosed with thyroiditis.
> Actually, strangely I find penicillin helps too(took a course of that too)..also with my daughters psoriasis..same deal..although I "know" viruses and bacteria are different<grin>wonder whether penicillin is having an anti-inflammatory effect, directly, or by being antibacterial? I do brilliantly with lactoferrin, and antioxidant, antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, anti-inflammatory, iron carrying protein - no wonder it's rich in mother's milk!
> I never knew about interleukin..I've heard the name before, but I get lost...seems to be something I need to investigate.In autoimmune disease, IL1, IL6, gamma interferon and TNFalpha, are the immune messengers that go around creating all the mischief!
> How did you find out about your genetic defect?
sent samples off to america for great smokies 'genovations' gene tests. Expensive though!
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> Nice to "meet" you, been reading some of your posts,
And nice to meet you too!Ray
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