Posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2014, at 12:53:14
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-krymehygenzhumnty » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 13, 2014, at 12:31:22
> > > > I have offered Mr. Hsung and is deputies opportunities to address the anti-Semitism and the defamation against me where those posts are originally posted.
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> > > Would you like to see the posts that you see as being problematic deleted?
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> > > If the deletion of these posts is not an option afforded you by Dr. Hsiung, what actions would you like him to perform?
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> > You asked if I would like to see the post in question that degrade and debase Jews deleted.
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> > At this point, my answer is "no". This is because that the anti-Semitic thought in those posts spans many years that could have created and developed here, to a subset of readers, that anti-Semitism is supportive
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> I understand.
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> What, if anything, should Dr. Hsiung do in order to remediate or mitigate the development of antisemitism that you deem as being theoretically possible as a result of his not sanctioning the posts that concern you?
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> - Scott
Scott,
It is not as simple as deleting those posts. For Mr. Hsiung has posted what can be seen as an attempt to justify allowing those statements to remain unsanctioned. He also takes back what he said that shows that a subset of readers could have been misled to believe that he understood that one match could start a forest fire and so he does not wait to sanction incivility and that if a statement was unsanctioned that it was not against his rules. He has also revised his FAQ recently secretly and will not post a disclosure to alert readers what these revisions are. This all goes to show his state of mind and to what his intent could be in allowing anti-Semitic hate and defamation against me to be seen as supportive where it is originally posted. Any solution to the allowing of the statements that defame Jews could be dealt with by posting his tagline to please be civil to those statements in question and citing the rule that is involved as a temporary means to stop other readers to think that they are supportive and will be good for this community as a whole because Mr. Hsiung thinks that, to remain unsanctioned where they are originally posted.
The harm that could have come from those statements unsanctioned and continue to be able to cause harm, can not be erased. Nor does posting his tagline to be civil annul the fact that readers could think that he is allowing anti-Semitic hate to remain unsanctioned because he says that he does what will be good for this community as a whole in his thinking. As to how anyone could evaluate as to if or if not it will be good for this community as a whole, one could look back to the historical record and see what happened to communities where anti-Semitic hate was state-sponsored on the basis that the leader allowed anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive.
Lou
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