Posted by pontormo on September 14, 2014, at 11:48:58
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-greanpheeldz » pontormo, posted by Lou Pilder on September 13, 2014, at 10:43:41
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> > > But it is much worse than that. For it has been revealed to me that the Wrath of this God is so great that he says that unless one repents, they shall perish.
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> > Sorry, I don't follow.
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> > 1. Who are "they" who "shall perish" unless "one repents'?
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> > 2. And why should "they" perish just because "one" hasn't repented? If "they" repent isn't that enough as to "them'?
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> > Are you saying that Bob's repentance is the only one that matters here, and that on his repentence everyone else's fate depends?
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> > 3. And what exactly does "perish" mean? Could you elucidate?
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> > pontormo,
> You asked,[...Who are "they" and who 'shall perish" unless "one repents"...].
> The scriptures that the Jews use states that [...all we like sheep have gone astray...we have turned everyone to his own way...]. and those scriptures also state, [...Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts, and let him return to the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon..].
> It has been revealed to me that repentance is this "returning" to God. It involves going down a broken road to find a path that returns them to God. This repentance leads to a new heart, a new spirit, into a new realm. And as I try to explain this to my Christiandom friends, I tell them that this Jesus of Nazareth first said,[....Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand...].
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, he said to me, "The Lord is your Shepherd, He will restore your soul, He will lead you in the paths of righteousness out of the raging sea of dirt and mire to be led to the still waters of peace and joy, back to the green fields that you used to know."
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>>>Sorry, Lou. I still don't understand.
1 You don't say who "they" who "shall perish" are.
An answer to that question would define a category of persons who comprise "they." Is "they" posters on psychobabble? particular posters on psychobabble? I simply don't know what or who you mean.
2. Who is this "one" who must repent because the Wrath of this God is so great?
An answer would name this "one"-- I assume one person? you have in mind.
3. You also don't define what "perish" means. Usually "perish" means "die." But since everyone dies-- and here you say that if this "one" repents others won't "perish," you must mean something other than "die" in any literal sense.~~~
~~Could you please explain then what definition you give you "perish" in this sense?
~~~These are fairly simple, literal questions. I'm asking what and who you are referring to, and what would happen to them if they don't return to your (?) God.
Unless you can, readers like myself can only guess at who and what you are trying to say.~~~~Ie: How does what you write apply to anything on this website -- posters here, Bob, what will happen as a result of the Wrath of your God --
Can you explain that-- ie can you put that into simpler or more concrete terms?
for example, "green fields" do not mean anything to me. I have never been on green fields; therefore I cannot return to them. If you mean metaphoric "green fields" as some poetic idea of a happy place, I still don't know how that applies to psychobabble.
That's what I'm asking.
The information in your reply to me doesn't make this more clear.
thanks
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