Posted by SLS on September 11, 2014, at 20:28:41
In reply to Lou's reply-asphlorisch » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 11, 2014, at 13:15:41
> > Lou,
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> > Regarding:
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> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6477.html
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> > > > > > Do you see any problems with this?
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> > > > > What do you mean by "problem"?
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> > > > Within the context of my sentence, I would define "problems with" as:
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> > > > Disagreeing with or have an objection to.
> > > >
> > > > So, do you have any problems with the content of the post you cited and provided the following URL link to?
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> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6477.html
> >
> > > The link brings up that I cited the part where Mr. Hsiung states that being supportive takes precedence even if one believes what they post or even if there is truth in it in some way. That means that even bible verses are not exempt from that support take precedence.
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> > Are the following excerpts the passages that you are referring to?
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> > "Sometimes the goals of these boards conflict. One goal is of course that they be supportive. Another is that people feel free to post, since how else are they going to be supported? But being supportive takes precedence. My approach to civility is, it doesn't matter if someone really believes something -- or to some extent even if it's true -- if it's uncivil, they shouldn't post it. It's a tradeoff, that person can't vent or receive support themselves (at least not here), but the overall atmosphere is (IMO) more supportive for others."
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> > "Someone may really believe someone else will be damned, but it keeps the overall atmosphere more supportive not to post that"
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> > Okay. What are your objections to this verbiage?
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> >
> > - Scott
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> Scott,
> I do not have objections to what Mr. Hsiung posted concerning not to post what could lead one to feel that their faith is being put down by posting that they are damned even if the poster believes that.
> What I was showing is that anti-Semitic statements being allowed to stand here where they are originally posted could lead a subset of readers to think that Mr. Hsiung lied when he posted that, for the statement, {No non-Christian will enter heaven} is allowed to be seen as supportive since there is not his tagline to please be civil linked to it where it is originally posted, nor have up to 6 deputies posted their tagline as acting as deputy for Mr. Hsiung. In examining the impact that could happen by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record allowing what could be by a subset of readers considered to be anti-Jewish thought, those readers could think that Mr. Hsiung and those deputies are ratifying the anti-Jewish statement. That could make it possible for anti-Semitism to flourish here. Readers could think that Jews are an inferior race and the damage can not be erased by Mr. Hsiung posting that he did not mean what he posted when he says that he has revised that if a statement is not sanctioned that it is not against his rules, to that it could not be determined if it is or is not against the rules. How can readers view Jews here when the rule is to not post what is uncivil and anti-Semitism is allowed to be seen as supportive here?
> When I came here and saw that support takes precedence, I took Mr. Hsiung at his word. Taking back what he wrote does not annul the fact that what is not supportive is still not supportive regardless if he takes back what he wrote. The issue here is that anti-Semitism is allowed to be seen as supportive which could wreck a subset of jewish people that come here for support IMHHO to kill themselves when they see that Jews are portrayed as an inferior race that they will not enter heaven because they are not Christians, for the statement in question is analogous to {no Jew will enter heaven} or {only Christians will enter heaven}.
> LouI understand your concerns and the logic of your arguments.
Can you list here the actions that you would like Dr. Hsiung to perform in order to address these concerns?
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.- George Bernard Shaw
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