Posted by Lou Pilder on February 13, 2014, at 8:31:17
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on February 12, 2014, at 23:23:40
> > You also state that telling others what to do is not conducive to the civic harmony and welfare here because telling others what to do is different from telling others what to believe. Here in this case, I as a Jew am being told what to do, to convert to Christianity, so that I could save myself first.
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> > Here in another post the past practice is that when someone tells another what to do, that could be putting down that person.
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> I agree, it wasn't sensitive to your feelings, but that's different from putting down Judaism. And I usually don't consider telling someone what to do once to be pressure/harassment.
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
There are many parts to the post in question that says something like: [..Convert-Lou Pilder and save yourself first...convert to Christianity...] that are at issue here. You wrote,[...I agree, it wasn't sensitive to your feelings...]. That alone could be a way to post a repudiation in the thread where the post appears. But it is much more than that, for the statement you say is not sensitive to my feelings but you also say that is different from putting down Judaism. Let us look at this post from the past practice of your to see what {putting down} of a faith could mean here by you. The post {implies} that if one road is right then others are wrong and is considered by you to constitute {putting down} other faiths. The key in your past practice here in relation to posts that put down other faiths is by {implication} as to what can be seen. In the post in question, the poster telling me to save myself first by converting to Christianity from Judaism has many {implications}.One implication is that since I am a Jew, that Judaism does not lead to being saved and that Christianity does. That constitutes a generally accepted understanding of what putting down of another faith implies. The implication is that Jews can not be saved unless they convert to Christianity so that the implication is that Judaism is an inferior religion to Chrsitianity and by further implication the Jews will miss out on salvation because they do not convert to Christianity. I feel put down when I read that implication. And your rule is to not post {anything that could lead one to feel put down}. By implication, a subset of readers could think that the statement in question also puts down Islam, and all other faiths that are not Christian. For if Jews need to convert to Christianity for salvation, then would not Islamic people and all other people that are not Christian also have to do the same? So the statement not only leads me to feel put down when I read it, but there could be others also led to feel put down by the statement.
Lou Pilder
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