Posted by morgan miller on April 18, 2011, at 12:01:08
In reply to Re: the only way out » poser938, posted by huxley on April 18, 2011, at 6:07:41
> poser,
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> You have come to the wrong place man.
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> Check out paxilprogress.com
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> You will find people who have quit SSRIs and suffer for up to 5 years before recovering. They all mention anhedonia and they all recover eventually.
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> I strongly suggest you go there and check it out before you listen to anyone here. Contrary to popular belief they don't know what they are talking about.
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> You know what I have found, even the real pschiatirists dont know what they are doing. They are guessing, I have had several admit that.
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> So why on earth would you listen to a bunch of anonymous people online talking about dopamine receptors.
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> No one understands how the brain works or how these drugs effect them. All we can do is go of ancedotal evidence and sometimes our own is our best.
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> Good luck with whatever you do.
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>Huxley, why do you keep coming back here if you have nothing to gain from any of the people here?
Look man, some people may have had bad experiences with SSRIs that sent them into a state worse than what they were before, I don't doubt that this is possible. Still, I believe there are far more people out there that have never had these issues with SSRIs and do well on them for the rest of their lives. You are going off of one internet site that attracts what is likely a smaller part of the population of people that have tried SSRIs than what it appears. Also, if one does not think their brain is quite the same after being on medication for a while, but they were doing fine on medication without ill side effects, than why not just stay on the darn medication and just live life? Big deal, you wake up in the morning, take your antidepressant, feel good, and get on with life, it's really that simple. Now for those that had a bad experience on an antidepressant or other medicaition, I suggest doing lots of research in an attempt to find medications that are less invasive and more likely to be effective. Medication should be combined with supplements, diet, exercise, meditative stretching/yoga, meditation, and therapy. Why would you want to suffer for five years of your life hoping that your brain function will return to normal(it may not because mental illness itself may prevent it from) when you could find ways to feel good again with the right medication. I sure as heck would not feel as good as I do right now if I had not given Lexapro a full 3 months and added a moderate dose of Depakote to it. I also take supplements that are helping, one of them being Piracetam(really a drug), and I just started exercising 3 times a wk(will be 4 or 5 soon).
You do realize there is some pretty good scientific evidence for chronic depression, anxiety, and bipolar states to cause alterations in chemistry and damage in parts of the brain, do you not? Medications may actually be useful in healing parts of the brain as some may be neuroprotective and also assist in repairing parts of the brain damaged by mental illness, and, possibly even parts of the brain damaged by previous medication use. It really is all dependent on the kinds of medications used. I think it would be silly to deny at least a trial of something like a low dose of lithium for those that experience depression and mixed states as lithium may protect the brain and help restore it at the same time. Lithium is not a synthesized in the lab medication, it comes straight from the earth. Lithium just needs to be bonded with something to help deliver it more like it would be delivered if we got it from nature-water or vegetables. There has been a study that showed cities with higher levels of lithium in the water had lower crime rates and lower suicide rates.
As I recall, you were on Zyprexa, which I consider to be a very invasive medicaiton. I've been off Zyprexa for a year now and I am so so glad I'm not taking it anymore.
>No one understands how the brain works or how these drugs effect them.
Well, you are wrong about this for sure. We may not know everything that medications do, but we have a good idea, and this is a result of legitimate research studies, what some of the main mechanisms of actions of medications are.
I believe it is a bit ridiculous to just ignore at least what we do know of science and simply always go off of anecdote.Huxley, you obviously had a bad experience with some pretty heavy duty medications. Do you think it's possible that with the right medications you would eventually feel and function just fine and go on living a fairly happy life? All I'm saying is, don't knock it till you've tried it(and I'm not talking about awful drugs like Zyprexa).
How are you doing these days?
Morgan
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