Posted by JadeKelly on November 25, 2008, at 17:02:25
In reply to Re: no stims/no benz BEST NARDIL AUGMENTION d/r » JadeKelly, posted by that_guy23 on November 25, 2008, at 9:04:16
> hey jade,
Hi Shawn,
I read down the page some, but may have some hopeful news and another poster you may want to run some quick questions by. Back to yours.
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> So how long have you been on parnate now? You say your gonna get augmentaion if you can, is this because your pdoc. won't prescribe? What type of other A/D's are other people adding? Hope you get your augmetor.
>I called my PDoc and upped to 40mg Parnate. I've been on 5+ weeks. I'll have to wait to see Doc about augment at appt. No way would he do that by phone if we haven't talked about it. After this guy I just posted to, not sure I'll need it. It seems like mostly anti/psych meds and mood stablizers. Some stims, but remember, thats short term for you and it WILL disrupt your plan for the good life. Please don't do it. It'll lead you back where you were.
> Oh so your a mom, congarts, how old are you sons? I think thats my next step, find a good girl, once I deal with this depression/anxiety or it could be a lifelong battle, as long as I can get control of it, maybe settle down, get a good girl to smarten me up. Hopefully buy next summer or soon after.
My sons are late teens, nephew is around your age.He did exactly what you are talking about and its a great idea. Its NOT going to last forever Shawn. So many kids go thru this at your age. Glad to see you're smart enough and strong enough to get it together now. My nephew, after cleaning up as you have, getting rid of some of the residual stuff, keep working out, he went and got a beautiful good girl to spend time with! It helped him immensely. Wait till you're ready and feel strong.I'll turn 24 and just get my licence back, which I've lost because of a dui I had a couple years ago when I was only 20 or 21. They just kept putting it off, now I have to wait til next july. Lost them in this past may, and it's very annoying relying on evryone else, when your used to just jumping in tior truck, then car and go on. I did write off 2 vehicles from drunk driving, the second time my friend was driving I know it's stupid, I wouldn't have a sip of beer now before driving, annd I always warn my friends.
Just remember it this way, no "good girl" is gonna wanna be around that stuff. She's gonna wanna see you have your you know what together. And I have the feeling you will. Just keep focusing on the life you want. Improving yourself. You are certainly smart enough and articulate enough to go get it!
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> Sorry to kinda get off topic, it just shows thats the life I have lead, the past 5-6 years, and I have had enough "fun"!! I think it is time to settle down. I also have a brother 2 years older than me, getting married next year, and he wants me to stand, and his fiance wants me to play a song that I wrote for them as soon as I heard they were getting married. I used to have a band all through high school, and plan on it again in the future.Hey! Thats awesome. What do you play? Sounds like you and brother are close. And its not really "off topic" cause if you don't have a life to go get that excites you, how would this help, right? Gotta be getting excited about the new life for Shawn! Thats a big part. And having good people around you that are really counting on you is a good thing.
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> meanwhile, back at the farm, The cbt. Yes it is hard for the journal and exposures. The journal though I'm finding a little easier each day. I guess just something to look back on. in the mean time the exposures, like you said are really soemthing you have to take step by step or they will backfire. You have to start off small, and I don't really have an idea where to start so when I see her again, i'll get some help with that. also my psychiatrist does know her, and is actually the one that recommende me to her.Good idea.
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> I just got a call back then. as i was writing this, after calling my psychitrists secretary this morninng, about 1/2 an hour ago, and she said no to upping to 90mg. WHAT THE F*CK!!! I am seriously getting sick of this bitch!! It's so hard to find someone else though, and know that there good. So now I have no augmentation, no control over nardil. It just seem's if she knew how hard I was doing, she would help, instead seems like she just likes pissing me off!!
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> I don't think she plans on adding anything to nardil, actually I don't think she has a DAMN clue about MAOI's!! SO FRUSTRATING!!Wierd that she'd write for 105mg, but now won't write for 90mg. Maybe it scared her. My book says start at 15mg 3xday then to titrate to 60mg-90mg slowly. So, many people I geuss stop at 60mg. Not saying you should. I doubt 15mg more will make that much difference, I just don't know.
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> sorry, i'm just very upset now.I don't blame you. Take a day or two and think about it. Talk to her in person once more and see how you feel. If she's more a therapist that PDoc, maybe someone else, just a consult? (Not from her list)
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> As for the 4 months on nardil, that was me setting that time, I just want to go longer then any other A/D, considering it's success and that it is supposed to take longer, right?After talking to this guy, yeah. Stay on it. He was saying after reaching 60mg (for me), it would be another 6 weeks at least. So total 4 months! Don't know what benefit between here and there but sure wish it would hurry up! I'm gonna hang in there like you, as we've come this far, right!!
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> So you say even switching to parnate is 2-4 weeks waiting period? And basically everything else will be 4 weeks. That really sucks.Don't do it. I just now think you are on the right med and switching will delay end results for too long. You don't have far to go, right? To reach 4 mos? How many more weeks, and how long have you been on Klonopin? Any chance you have tolerance to Klonopin? Could you switch to another Benz? Don't take more than you're supposed to, I could see that delaying things. Only thing I can think of Shawn, other than waiting it out, is to find PDoc willing to prescribe non-addicting augment, and up your dose to 90mg.
Also, I'm finding I get irritable sometimes on this stuff. Nardil may be the same. Make a plan for when you're really pissed off. NO GOING BACK!!! YOU CAN DO THIS! If you don't have anti- depression going on at 4 months see another PDoc for sure. But don't quit! It just may be an augment away.
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> Well I'm glad to here that you have a good family, and it sucks that something had to put you into this depression. But just keep your head high, you seem very strong and smart, and I believe you will beat this easily, just use your family to motivate you.
Thanks Shawn, and remember, I've got 20 years on you. I imagine, as smart as you are, this system is easier to navigate for an older adult. I'm sure its frustrating nonetheless. And as for family, we both know, if you haven't been there, all the good intentions in the world are just that.Keep me posted, I'll do same.
PS-Look on board for Nardil2007. If you can catch him, maybe good source. I talked with a guy before him that said Nardil and stim are answer. After talking to "Nardil2007" I think stims just make anyone feel better for a time, unless ADD. No buzz on that dose. You want the real deal.
Good luck to you,
~Jade
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> good luck
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> Shawn>
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