Posted by revaaron on July 5, 2007, at 0:10:15
In reply to Re: Heroine as atnidepressant » Sigismund, posted by Babak on July 4, 2007, at 3:14:15
Babak, a couple of nutritional ideas- L-tyrosine or L-phenylalanine for dopamine production; D-phenylalanine to increase your brain's internal level of opiate (endorphins); and 5-HTP for serotonin. I would try them each seperately, each for at least a week, maybe each one in turn. They can all be taken safely together, but if you can figure out which one is helping the most it might give you some insight as to which neurotransmitters you've got out of whack. I can tell you that with doses of DL-phenylalanine I've gotten relief from opiate cravings.
All of these nutritional supplements have had relatively quick effects. If I'm suffering from serotonin deficiency-induced depression I feel the 5-HTP like a high that I start to feel after only 20 minutes. If I'm not, it just makes me a little sleepy. The DL-phenylalanine doesn't come on as quick, but I notice a definate difference in opiate-related desire and WD symptoms, as well as more energy. The L-tyrosine I felt in a more subtle way, but I could notice a difference in my energy levels within a couple days of dosing with it.
Just out of curiousity: are you disabled? Do you have a job?
Also what do you mean by "H doesn't actually cure my depression"? I mean, for folks with chronic depression nothing usually "cures" their depression- it just makes life livable. With others, being treated for 6 months is enough to bring them out of it.
What was being on a stimulant like for you, if you ever have been? Some have had a lot of luck with dextroamphetamine as an AD. When I've been on it for AD/HD it completely kills my desire to get high, even though I don't feel high on it. I've always had a huge interest in experimenting and reading about various drugs, but when I was on the opiates I also lost interest in other drugs in a very profound way, where even drinking or smoking weed in social situations evoked zero interest.
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