Posted by Faradism.net on January 2, 2005, at 6:25:15
In reply to thought i'd drop by..., posted by chemist on January 2, 2005, at 4:33:31
hello there...first of all, the citations given in the original post by mr. carbajal are incorrectly referenced
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You state this in the plural. All I "cited" was the journal of addictive medicine
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is by frawley and smith and concerns ``chemical aversion therapy in the treatment of cocaine dependence,´´ with a cohort of 20 patients - all customers of drs. smith and frawley´s chain of 10-day cure Schick Shadel Hospital in Santa Barbara - and faradic therapy was not used: rather, a cocaine substitute was employed to hasten aversion to the ``sight, smell, and taste´´ of the real thing.
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My apologies I'm just a total idiot that learns by testing and doing not by reading about what somebody else done. And you are mistaken as to who the study was made on. They did use faradic therapy and chemical aversion. The faradic showed higher success since it is more controllable. Read the post. As to a placebo Crack cocaine, You are "en lo correcto" my bombastic friend. If you used the real thing you would be busted (that means incarcerated for the foreigners ejumucation ). BUT if you did use the real thing as I did then you would target the real reason people use crack and thats for the rush not the taste. Thus making it much more treatable. Your is like tooting on a straw to get someone to quit smoking tobacco. Doctor Please.
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the schick shadel hospitals are worth investigating: they are pay-as-you-go betty-ford style clinics run by businessmen with medical degrees.
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Excuse me they were bought and sold a few years back and now it is run by former patients. Read the web I provided.
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faradic therapy is a perpetuation of anecdotal and placebo-like ``effect´´ that has been reported to ``cure´´ epilepsy 150+ years ago and remains a great way to fatten one´s bank account.
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What I propose is a do it your selfer. It cost me a five dollar dimmer switch and a rock. N. V. Kantorovich 1920` findings were largely ignored page 21 para 3 & 4 the Punishment cure. page 22 para 1. " The uncertainties are compounded by the bitter backbiting in the alcoholism research field, with investigators who have put all their life work and reputation into one basket jealously guarding it, while trying to tip over the basket of the kid down the street. "
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a primary inductor - a conducting, wound coil with electrical current normal to the magnetic field, as per the fundamentals of electrodynamics
- induces an electric current in a second inductor, coupled with a resistor which in turn produces.....
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Whatever has nothing to do with a dimmer switch or aversion conditioning. One guy in Japan used the pain from bee stings.
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this is as old (literally) as faraday and maxwell. the rTMS business of late is the same business being pushed by mr. carbajal, albeit in a much more professional and controlled manner. the magnetic field is alleged to play.....
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whatever, Electric eels were used before them.
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with the electric field within the noggin,
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Its only to one hand. It never goes near the "noggin". You guys and your fancy terms.
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the above comments are not meant to be uncivil, but rather to inform the unknowing that behind a yahoo web site is a whole lot of nothing: the electrodynamics/statics, dearth of literature, questionable private-sector promotions, and downright evidence that addictions are better addressed by so many proven and effective remedies (e.g., imipramine for cocaine), not to mention the blatant advertising on this site for a toy electrical device for which the schematics are not correct, should be interpreted as nothing but factual information denying this person's claims.
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The schematic comes with the "toy" (actually it is a test kit for electrical engineers in Mexico given as extra course credit. Distributed by http://www.steren.com.mx
I have a sears one from 1906 I don't think you could not fathom out how it works. It involves physics. But you couldn't make as much money on that as the dope hu?
The Mexicans have dozens of ways of constructing "cajas de toques" or in the vernacular "chicharras". Thats not the point. You could use vinegar as a punisher or a tattooing for that matter, any thing but your dope. Off course YOU would want to get us off dope with dope :) Thats where the pesos are Hu my pecuniary minded friend. And in my group pages are other ways of making one. I invite you to post yours anonymously if your scared of losing money ). I followed the schematic and it worked fine. I am not a capitalist pig. I don't sell or advertise S*it. I am only working hard to save my people from drug dealers and drug makers who now run the FDA. who probably have money invested chemical concoctions the made in a wood shed.
The http://www.Schick-shadel.com center advertises that if you can smoke a cigarette in front of them in 5 days they will give you your money back. Wana take that bet? Just send someone who smokes there and put them to the test. Thats what your complaining about right? Not any test good enough for you?
Unless it involves dope cures. You and FDA are in for an awakening my tumid compadre. The days of drug dealers and drug makers are running out. Were taking responsibility for our own cures now and the very near future will prove me right.
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all the best, chemist (and physicist too...)
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Thank you Roberto carbajal welder ( freedom fighter. Musket Dueling Champion of the World )
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