Posted by toojane on February 5, 2007, at 14:46:58
In reply to Re: assumptions and generalizations, posted by one woman cine on February 5, 2007, at 12:29:06
> I am not championing anything - why do you use that particular word?
To champion means to defend. You have been vigorously defending your position that mental health professionals, with few exceptions, are benevolent.
When someone posts about positive experiences with or beliefs about psychiatrists, do you feel equally compelled to demand that they not generalize and insist that they clearly qualify every single statement they make to include the fact that some people have had negative encounters? No. Because those posts are congruent with your own beliefs.
On the Hospitalization thread, you did not post any words of support or encouragement to me or Zenhussy or Vwoolf or Craig. You did not share any positive experiences about your own hospitalization (if you have been) even though I clearly wrote that such accounts were very welcome.
Instead you chose to make demands that I not generalize.
> People have trouble seeking help the way it is, without having the history/mythology of psychology placed on them. I was afraid of seeking help because of all the stories I had heard about therapy et al. It truly skewered my perceptions of "normality".
I find your point-of-view very confusing. You advocate for patients to educate themselves, believing them more responsible for protecting themselves from unethical clinicians than professional bodies, but then you also want to shelter them from negative accounts of therapy in case it makes them afraid of seeking help and "skewers" their perceptions.Also, writing the word mythology in a discussion where we are talking about abusive practictioners implies that the stories are untrue. Myths are untrue stories. I assure you that the people who are writing (or unable to write because it is too painful) on the hospitalization thread are not spreading "myths."
> someone who may be thinking about seeking help may be frightened by the myth that they can be diagnosed and labelled within a short period of time.Oh but they can be assessed and labelled and committed and drugged within a very short period of time. This is NOT a myth. It happened to me.
> So, it's not quibbling - & I'm disappointed/upset at the use of minizimizing words when I am just trying to get my point across. That, to me, feels silencing as well.Quibbling means to raise irrelevant distinctions. If you go back and read the posts, in the context of the actual discussion we were having, assess and diagnose can be used interchangeably. I agree that they cannot be used interchangeably in the context of say, filling out an insurance form. But that is not how I was using those words. In that discussion, instead of answering the point I raised, you chose to argue about the exact definitions of the words, which I continue to maintain were irrelevant to "that" conversation. That is quibbling. I believe I have used the word correctly.
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