Posted by muffled on September 12, 2005, at 11:42:53
In reply to It's *not* you -- **trigger** » muffled, posted by Racer on September 11, 2005, at 13:48:31
> > Yeah, you're not supposed to diss yourself. There's a reason for that, too, that involves all those things like self-esteem, yaddida, yaddida... It's OK to express yourself, and it's really too bad when other people are triggered by it. For what it's worth, there's a razor fine line between being honest in expressing yourself and taking responsibility for someone else's reactions -- and I think this is a good place to learn about it, since most of us here are pretty understanding about that sort of thing...
Thank-you. Mebbe i'm not so stupid.
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> I'm sorry if you've posted things that have triggered others. That they were triggered really is more about them than about you, but it's a very kind thing you do when you indicate that your post might trigger the most vulnerable of us here. That's not being a screw up, that's being very caring about others.OK
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> On the other hand, if you need to express something that others might find triggering, guess what? You still need to express it, and you can.I guess. I guess this is the ONLY place I can say such things yet cuz I haven't gotten that far with T. cuz I can't talk well face to face. Its too intense.
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> I find it easier to interact here, too, for similar reasons. And I tend to think that I'm doing something wrong when other people have weird reactions to me in real life. Guess what? If I am expressing myself honestly and authentically, and someone else doesn't get it, that doesn't mean it's me -- you know? (Example: I had a biopsy done the other day, and said to the doctor, "So, uh, if I don't cry do I get a lollipop?" She took me seriously, and mentioned that they don't have lollipops in her office! Hello? I'm a middle aged woman, I don't expect lollipops in a doctor's office, and was making a JOKE! But her reaction doesn't mean that there was anything wrong with me. Same principle applies in non-joking situations, too.)I love jokes and laughter. That is how I survive. Good for you!
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> Have you ever seen someone else say something that comes across funny, and other people react as though something's wrong with that person? What is your reaction when you see that happen? Do you find yourself wanting to reach out to the person speaking? Offer comfort? (That's my usual reaction, so I'm offering it up as another example.) If you do, can you try to offer yourself the same kindness?Yeah, the nurture thing. I'm not good at nurturing myself. Ooooh, but I can sure loath myself, I'm good at that!
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> Sounds to me as though you've been taught to see yourself as the cause of all the problems around you. Is it possible that you're not, in fact, the root cause of all the pain and misery within a fifty mile radius? Could it be that you actually deserve a little kindness and comfort?No, only for a, maybe....a two mile radius, I'm ever so much better now!!!!
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> Of course, that's probably not true, and you're probably as bad as I am and should apologize for all your horrible mistakes -- mosquitos? I'm really sorry about them, they seemed like a good idea, even if I can't remember why -- but it's still possible that you aren't nearly as bad as you giving yourself credit for. And I'll bet you even have a good quality or two. (I do! My fingernails are a lovely shape, and I rarely kick animals...)I don't kick animals either. I love my kids.
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> I hope this helps a bit. I hate to see how much pain you're in right now, and wish I could offer real comfort. This is the best I got today, but it's yours for the taking.Thank- you so much. i'll go back and read this over lots of times. mebbe if I can make the printer work I can print it.
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