Posted by Lou Pilder on April 7, 2010, at 9:25:23
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-scidy » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on April 7, 2010, at 7:13:55
> > If sorcery is the use of drugs to poison someone to make them die, or alter one's mind to make them controllable, would the science that you are wanting to mean here be related to this forum?
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> In the above question, you provide a definition of the word "sorcery". Which of the drugs used in the healing art of psychiatry do you feel qualify as agents of sorcery when used in the manner prescribed for treating mental illness?
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> - ScottScott,
You wrote,[...drugs used..agents of sorcery...].
Thousands of years ago there were those that used plants to alter the mind of others. There were also insects, spiders, and later chemicals as by-products from chemical dyes and metalurgy and rat and worm and insect poisons.
The uses of the drugs, the agents of the sorcerer, were to make the subject confused and have distorted judgment and have them loose their humananity. The drugs had the potential to induce the subject taking the drug into an artificial psychosis, subhuman, sexless, and demished intellegence. They could also be addicted to the sorcerer's chemicals and had to come back for more, and pay. They sometimes were given drugs that caused hallucinations. The sorcerer could give them a drug to try to turn them into murderers. Hashish was one of those and we get our word {assassin} from those that were given hashish.
The drugs were given by torturers to attempt to extract infomation from the subjct given the drug.
Some of these drugs came from mushrooms and cactus plants and the coaco bush and hemp . Urea and an ester from apples made up the barbituates and some ergots were hallucinogenic.
Now the sorcerer did not have the knowlege of how nerve agents or neuro-toxins or neuroleptics work as we know today. Today, chemists can synthesize compounds that have psychoactive effects.
But I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. Would the person's intent that gives another a mind-altering drug that has the potential to make the person want to kill themself, or be addicted to it, or cause them to be dehumanized, be what is needed to determine if sorcery is or is not practiced?
B. If so, how could you determine the person's intent?
C. other questions if the above are answerd.
Lou
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