Posted by Lou Pilder on April 5, 2010, at 8:27:04
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-bokovlieph, posted by SLS on April 5, 2010, at 7:35:45
> Here are the words to the three verses you cited. They do not appear to support your thesis. There is no mention of sorcery, and one cannot infer a definition thereof from within the text. Additionally, we find no reference to "mind-altering chemicals" or the practice of medicine. I do not see that you have demonstrated any support to your contentions. At this juncture, you have not provided any evidence that the practice of psychiatry is sorcery and that the synthesis and application of psychiatric drugs is proscribed in the bible.
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> "and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
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> " He who conquers shall be clad thus in white garments, and I will not blot his name out of the book of life; I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels."
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> "Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.'"Scott,
You wrote,[...there is no mention of sorcery...no mention of mind-altering chemicals...].
In order for this topic to be understood, all of what the bible says could clarify about mind-altering drugs and what or/and who are the sorcerers and such.
But the thread here is about what the bible says, not what I think it says or even if it is about if I believe it or not.
To understand more about sorcerers, the word in that bible is pharmakia in the Greek. The book that the word is in was written in the ancient time many many centuries ago. At that time, there were no drug stores or the AMA or such. Drugs were made usually from plants. The sorcerers used the drugs from the plants for mind-altering purposes, or to poison, not to heal.
The verses were cited by me because of a connection with the Book of Life and other verses which I can not cite here due to that they could involve posting the Jewish perspective, the foundation of Judaism, and there is a post here by Mr. Hsiung threatening me with expulsion from this community if I was to post that foundation as revealed to me that I believe.
If you would like to understand more about the word sorcerer, there is Strong's, Theyer's and other lexicons that could give you more infomation. But the overiding aspect of this discussion I have not even opened up to yet, for it involves the God of the bible in question here as to the mind, and the Book of Life, and what that God says about the use of mind-altering drugs in relation to God's will and the Lake of Fire.
Lou
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