Posted by Lou Pilder on March 5, 2008, at 17:12:59
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Sigismund's question-wtrnlght » Lou Pilder, posted by Dena on March 5, 2008, at 14:34:06
> Good stuff, Lou.
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> Here's a question for you, that I know others might ask, because of the traditional teachings...
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> You say we have no part in being born, physically (it happens TO us).
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> So, too, you say we have no part in being born again, spiritually...
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> What of those who point out that we're told to come, by faith, and they would say we must "make a decision" to believe. We must choose to trust.
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> What would you say to those who would say that?
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> Shalom, DenaDena,
You wrote,[...what of those...].
Before I can reply to that, I think that there is something that has been revealed to me that all of the biblical revelation could take on a different perspective as compared to if this revealtion to me is not included.
This revelation is made to the Jews in their scriptures and being a Jew the revealtion that I receive then comes from a Jewish perspective.
The revelation here for this discussion is that it has been revealed to me that all men were spirits before they became born of the flesh and that we were spirit beings that had fellowship with God before the foundation of the world. This then brings to me what has been revealed to me as the purpose of our birth here and I am comming to that. This then could all be tied into this discussion.
Lou
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