Posted by Lou Pilder on March 5, 2008, at 8:45:21
In reply to Lou's reply to Sigismund's question-wtrnlght » Sigismund, posted by Lou Pilder on March 4, 2008, at 9:19:31
> > >Yes, the Kingdom of God is within, and meant to be expressed through us. It's "at hand".
> >
> > >It's not something to be arrived-at later -- as in "getting to heaven one day".
> >
> > >It's NOW...!
> >
> > So, what prevents us getting/being there?
> >
> > I came across this poem, by Hafiz.
> >
> >
> > It Felt Love
> >
> > How
> > Did the rose
> > Ever open its heart
> >
> > And give to the world
> > All its
> > Beauty?
> >
> > It felt the encouragement of light
> > Against its
> > Being,
> >
> > Otherwise,
> > We all remain
> >
> > Too
> >
> > Frightened.
>
> Sigismund,
> You wrote,[...what prevents us...?].
> It has been revealed to me that there are many things that prevent one from entering the Kingdom of God for entering the Kingdom is by being birthed into it. When we were born of the flesh, we had no party to our birth, it was outside of our ability to be born. There was a father and a mother.
> It has been revealed to me that mankind was created out of the dust of the ground and God breathed into him the breath of life which is spirit, like a seed, but that spirit did not germinate because Adam did not partake of the tree of life which would have given him conception to the God-life, but partook of the tree of the knowlege of good and evil that leads to death without the Water of life, the Word of God.
> This birthing into the kingdom of God has been revealed to me to be a conceiving of God's spirit with the already spirit in man to germinate the seed of God-life, to enter the Kingdom of God.
> It has been revealed to me that this birthing is like the birthing of the flesh in that we have nothing to do with it, for as our flesh father and mother caused us to be born of the flesh which leads to death from the carnal mind, our spirit father and mother causes us to be born of the spirit, which is light and eternal life.
> It has been revealed to me like you have posted here about the flower. For a seed needs water and light which gives heat to germinate. This water and this light in the spiritual birth is spiritual light and spiritual water. When I studied Botany, I learned that a plant will be drawn to the light and grow toward it and if kept in the dark without water, the seed will not germinate for there is no light for it to be drawn to.
> It has been revealed to me that there is a light drawing all men to God's spirit. For as I stood on the sand next to the sea, the Rider said to me," Arise,shine; for your light has come!
> And the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
> For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
> And deep darkness the people;
> But the Lord will arise over you,
> And His glory will be seen upon you."
> Lou
>
>
Sigismund,
You wrote,[...what prevents us getting there...?(The Kingdom of God)].
It has been revealed to me that one is birthed into the Kingdom of God for it is a spiritual kingdom of light and life in contrast to the flesh kingdom of darkness and death. It has been revealed to me that partaking of the Tree of Life can impart God-life into a person and that could then be a way to enter the Kingdom of God. It has been revealed to me that the Tree of Life in the midst of the Garden was there with God in the beginning. And it has been revealed to me that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. This has been revealed to me that the Tree of Life was and is The Word of God and is God. It has been revealed to me that the Word of God washes, it is like water of the spiritual kind, like the water of life. It has been revealed to me that The Tree of Life and the Water of Life and The Word of God are interelated and that God provides the Water and the Light for All to be born of God. For it has been revealed to me that all we like sheep have gone astray and that God is the spirit of all and invites all to come into His Kingdom
But it has also been revealed to me that, like you write here, that there are those that think that they are {prevented} from partaking of the water of life. And it has been revealed to me that God is calling all to partake of the tree of life if they are thirsty for that water. It has been revealed to me that that water is the water of rightiousness and that he that thirsts for that water will be filled with God's Spirit and be born from above.
I hope that you do not get me wrong here, for it has ben revealed to me that God is the Father of the birth from above and we can not have party to that, but when one has a thirst for rightiousness, it has been revealed to me that God is birthing you into The Kingdom of God, and that the Kingdom of God is not of this world and is a kingdom of rightiousness and peace in the Spirit of God.
And when I stood on the sand by the sea, the Rider said to me, "Let not your heart be troubled, you believe in God, believe also in me. In the beginning there was the Tree of Life in the midst of the Garden. I am the Tree of Life. I am the Vine. Abide in me, and I in you and you shall overcome and eat of The Tree of Life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God."
Lou
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