Posted by world citizen on February 18, 2005, at 23:38:23
In reply to Re: Selegiline » world citizen, posted by Elroy on February 18, 2005, at 23:00:40
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Hey, 2 things come to my mind in response to your post. First, do you have an endocrinologist? It seems to me that the DHEA would help, but if you've got some sort of endocrine condition I think you should consult with them. I believe your anxiety is at LEAST as valid as whatever other conditions you've got going on. I've tried the 7-KETO stuff and it totally wired me up and made it so that when I got hungry I got SERIOUSLY hungry. I mean the CAT FOOD was starting to look good, and it was the DRY stuff!!!
Are you consuming soy products? Soy is VERY estrogenic.
Secondly, I would thoroughly suggest you find a GOOD accupuncurist. Some people think if they can't understand how a thing works that there is no scientific basis to it. Let's put it this way, the State of California allows Acupuncture for certain medical problems. I see mine because of pain. I'm thinking about neuralgia+acupuncture=Elroy feels much better!!!!!! I hope your insurance covers it and I hope you can find a good one (they're like MDs, just because they have a license to practice doesn't mean they were A students!!!) AND I hope you're open to the possibity that this could help. They even have meridian thingies for stress etc. I'll put it this way Elroy, if I get a sufficient amount of money out of this "case" I intend to give my acupuncturist an agreed upon retainer so I can go in and see her whenever I need to and won't have to jump through any Medi-Cal hoops!!!!!AND I just got verification from iHERB they are sending my stuff! YIPPEEEE! (No, I'm not wired up I just tend to be very enthusiastic!)
World Citizen
Just started TMG this last week. Am still building dosages up. Just about to where you are at. Haven't really noticed anything yet. I used samE for a while there and did seem to notice a difference. And then recently read that TMG not only accomplished the same thing but was safer and cheaper. So figure I'll give it a more prolonged try.
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> My DHEA levels were recently tested and weren't terribly bad. Within a lab reference range of 18.0 to 319.0 mine were at 139.6. Still was less than 50% level. Assuming that they would be better off at the "top third" level, so around 210 to 300 range, I figured that I probably should be supplementing??? I'm just surprised that the level wasn't even lower, what with the high cortisol levels (back in Sept/Oct my cortisol levels were 5 to 6 times the maximum normal range).
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> Question... do you think that the 7-keto-DHEA version would be just as effective as the regular DHEA? Being on testosterone replacment therapy already (yes, it started back in June along with all of this other business), I would prefer to steer away from the androgenic effects of regular DHEA as I could develop a problem with excessive conversion to estrogen. That would throw my TRT program horribly and terribly out of balance.
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> I do believe that the cortisol problem - with me - is one of the central keys. I do think that the extreme anxiety initially suffered (in this most recent bout) caused the really high cortisol levels (and not the opposite), but I also believe that the HPA Axis has gotten "stuck" in a broken position and needs to somehow get re-set - otherwise none of the anti0anxiety or AD supps are going to work completely effectively!
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