Posted by KaraS on August 9, 2004, at 4:51:18
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Simus on August 9, 2004, at 1:40:31
> If there was just one supplement I would recommend to people, it would be magnesium (with vitamin C being a close second). That's how strongly I feel about it. (But then I am no Larry.)
Hmmmmmm... I wonder if I added another 400 mg. of magnesium, whether that would help me.
As for Larry, I was doing some research today on the net and found a discussion group that Larry was involved in. My first reaction was that he was cheating on us. How silly is that???? The post was from a couple of years ago in a forum that wasn't censored at all. For some reason a couple of the people were really attacking Larry and saying such horrible things to him. I can see why a moderator is needed on these boards.
> > > > > I am trying to get up the nerve to try some basic herbals like licorice. The herbals sound harmless, but I haven't always had good reactions to them so I am a little leary...Licorice is one of the first new things I'm planning on trying.
> LOL I have a very dry sense of humor - most people are either offended by it or just don't get it. It's not a very endearing feature. Sigh... How fortunate we are that we found each other!!! LOLSame here. I can offend sometimes when dealing with other people who don't get my sense of humor - but those people bore me to death anyway. I disagree with you - I think it can be a very endearing quality to those sharp enough to get it. I could be biased though.
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> > I read over on the Administration board that a Psycho-Babble 6th year anniversary party is being planned (for next year I think?) in Chicago. Wouldn't that be interesting? I'd love to meet the people I've been conversing with - esp. you and Larry. Larry would be treated like a rock star. What an ego trip that would be!
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> Ha! I can see it now... "WELCOME PSYCHOS" on the Mariott marquis... I have this strange mental image of something very similar to a "Star Trek" convention...I was also picturing a marquis saying something to that effect but I hadn't quite gotten the wording right yet. (BTW, remind me to bring my Spock Ears for the occassion.)
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> As an aside, I have always wondered if somewhere out there, there is a group of graduate students reading our posts like they are observing lab rats... Hmmm... I guess only Dr. Bob knows for sure...Only Bob and the graduate students themselves. I imagine there has to be some others helping him. He can't possibly read all of these postings on all of the various boards all by himself day in and day out. Because of reading the viscious posts on that other board, I do have more respect for the job that they do. Still, it's creepy knowing that Big Brother is watching.
> > I did try Wellbutrin once (both capsule and pill form) and felt like I couldn't breathe on it. It was a strange reaction. I've tried lots of things but never had that feeling before. I may try it again. I was very bummed when I had to give it up because I felt that it had the potential to really help me.
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> It sure isn't for everybody. As a matter of fact, most people on this site seem to use Wellbutrin as a supplemental med with an SSRI. I think that I managed to get over the initial side effects fairly easily because the Lexapro had me SOOOOO down and it "softened the blow" of the anxiety of the Wellbutrin.I could deal with the anxiety of it since I have so little of that now. It's the feeling that it was an effort to breathe that got to me. Call me crazy, but it's something I like to do without effort.
> > I had a cook-out to attend yesterday but didn't end up going. I got into the car but ended up heading back to bed. My friend is probably mad at me. I haven't had the nerve to call her yet. Oh if they only understood... (I'm putting her first on the list for our forced understanding treatment.)
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> I understand that so well. Others can not possibly understand what our lives are like. At my lowest, I used to envy people with something like cancer. First and foremost, the people I know who have been diagnosed with malignant cancer have a trememdous will to live. I always envied that. Depression seems to immediately wipe out that instinctive fight to live (at least for me). I even envied cancer patients who died because their suffering was over (sorry to be so morbid, but that was depression talking). Then, cancer is something that people seem to understand, unlike mental illness. No one is likely to go up to a cancer patient and say, "You don't really have cancer. It is all in your head. Just make up your mind to not have cancer and you won't have it." But people don't seem to think twice about saying similar things to a depressed person. And cancer isn't a taboo subject. (Hope I wasn't too heavy there. But I have really been through it the past 10 years.)I know exactly what you mean by envying those with conditions that others understand. Then at least all of your energy could go to fighting the condition rather than fighting your friends and family. I've also thought about the fact that with those other horrible illnesses, at least they had the will to live.
So many people just can't (or don't want to) comprehend mental illness itself and there's no getting through to them. My brother-in-law told me during this last vacation that all I needed was short-term, medium-range and long-term goals. I didn't respond at all. I couldn't even find the energy to try to respond to that. And have I mentioned yet that "friend" of mine who used to scream at me at the top of her lungs? She has a very strong belief that anyone who doesn't work is useless. She won't even go out for an evening with another couple if the wife doesn't work. Needless to say, she just sees me as useless and lazy and she used to let me know it in no uncertain terms. Since we are also related it's hard to cut her out of my life completely but I did manage to have very little to do with her for a while. Now she tries to keep her mouth shut but you still know how she feels and what she is thinking.
> LOL There were times that I would have been on all fours grazing on the lawn if I thought it would have helped even a little. I would have moo'ed like a cow too if it would have helped. But doing that while being on psychiatric drugs might bring the padded wagon with the men in white coats. =)
I think that even if you did that without being on psychiatric drugs, the men in white coats would take you away!
Getting back to medications, I'm stopping the Perika St. John's Wort tonight. I can't bear the thought of taking it again. I've felt so drugged and awful from it and I'm spending so much time sleeping. I just can't afford to continue feeling this way and I am only on 1/3 of the dosage now. All of the things that are supposed to make me feel energized, including the small amount of Ritalin I took a little while back, make me feel so tired and I fall asleep. I wonder if this is all related to the adrenal fatigue and/or I possibly have ADD which can make you react paradoxically to stimulant types of medications.
Actually, one thing that didn't put me to sleep was the selegiline. I only took 5 mg. but it definitely felt stimulating. The other thing that felt slightly stimulating was the DLPA. They're supposed to be a good antidepressant when combined. I didn't want to try that now because of job hunting (the metabolites of the selegiline are amphetamines so I'd fail work related drug tests) but I'll never get a job if I don't get some antidepressant effect going. Selegiline is used by lots of health-conscious people as a life enhancement supplement because of its neuroprotective effect. I figure that if I have to take a drug test, I'll just tell them upfront that I take it. Of course it probably won't work for me either in which case it will be a moot point.
The selegiline is probably not good for the adrenal problems but it's like you with the Wellbutrin, you just can't afford to not take it now. That's one area I wish that the book had gone into more. I wish it listed medications to stay away from. Wish I could e-mail the author. Maybe I can find somethings out on the net. Oh, where is that selfish Larry when you need him? (LOL)
I'm really in feel sorry for myself mood now. I'm so tired of hearing about all of these things that work so well for other people and they do nothing for me or I can't tolerate them. Oh well, on to the next trial...
Have a great week too.
K
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