Posted by Lou Pilder on August 6, 2014, at 16:58:20
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion-ruzzul » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on August 5, 2014, at 22:22:19
> > > Your TOS states that fairness on your part is part of your philosophy along with implementing the Golden Rule along with that. A subset of readers could now could think that you are using deceit to lure people to join this site. They could have a rational basis to think that on the fact that you now state that you have shifted your thinking to allow unequal treatment, in particular but not limited to, that you give yourself the option of leaving uncivil statements un repudiated by you which in those readers thinking could constitute unfairness and an ignoring of the Golden Rule, and have not had that reflected by you changing your TOS/FAQ.
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> > In fact that's consistent with the Golden Rule, since sometimes I want uncivil statements by me not to be repudiated.
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> > Bob
> Mr. Hsiung,
> The issues here arise as a result of harm that could come to one here by defamation being allowed to stand by you.
> This is different from what you posted here. The difference is that you can control what could be thought to be supportive and what will be good for this community as a whole in your thinking by sanctioning defamation or not. Your philosophy is that being supportive takes precedence which a reasonable reader could think that there is not an exception to allowing defamation to stand on the grounds that un sanctioned defamation could cause harm to the victim of it. It is the what you call selective enforcement which others could call discrimination that is at issue here as you combine the golden rule with "fairness" by you in your enforcement. Fairness means that enforcement is done equally as you admit is a reasonable understanding of the word. Selective enforcement could IMHO lead to a subset of readers here committing suicide. These could be the victims of un sanctioned defamation that could lead them to feel put down which could cause them to be drawn down into a vortex of depression and feelings of worthlessness and kill themselves. That is why a rule to not post what could lead one to feel put down or accused or have their faith being put down is a sound mental-health practice. To discriminate could lead those that are victims of discrimination potentially to their deaths either by their own hand or seeking drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist to come out of the depression caused by discrimination and be killed by the drugs or the drugs compel them to kill themselves or others also. This population is hugely vulnerable to feeling the lash of discrimination and need to have greater safety for them than others as you state here that members are to be civil at all times.
> If you do not want the poster of defamation to feel bad by sanctioning the statement you could post that the statement is uncivil and do nothing else. It is the defamation of Jews and myself here that I want repudiated by you and you can do what you want with the poster of such.
> As long as you leave your TOS as it is readers could expect safety by your rules being applied equally. If and when they find out that you do not apply your rules equally and allow anti-Semitism to stand where it is posted originally those readers could feel defrauded as they do not see any disclosure in your TOS/FAQ that you will not apply your rues equally. To many readers the equal protection of the law is an inalienable right and they could see that those in charge of enforcing rules are not following the Golden Rule if they discriminate in their enforcement of their rules. And in the case here they could see it as creating and developing hatred toward the Jews as that anti-Semitism and defamation can be seen as civil here where the statements are originally posted as that they could see that your philosophy is that being supportive takes precedence and that there is not an excuse to allow those statements to stand un repudiated for if so it could be thought that you and your deputies of record are validating the hate.
> The Golden rule is about equality. And Jefferson thought that the laws should be so that there is equal protection to all by the laws being applied equally.
> For a lawyer to argue to the judge of his convicted client that he should not have to go to prison because the judge would not want to be in prison and invoke the Golden Rule could be thought by a subset of readers as a perversion of the morality that the rule comes from.
> Lou Pilder
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> Friends
Be not deceived. What is commonly known as he Golden Rule in one popular form has its written origin in the scriptures that the Jews use. And be advised that I am prevented from posting here what I need to in order for you to be educated in this subject by me. This is because of the prohibitions to me here from Mr. Hsiung which prevents me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me.
A commonly understood interpretation of the rule may not in reality be what the rule is about. This is because the rule has in it the depth of the teachings of Judaism, of which I am prevented by Mr. Hsiung to post here.
But as the rule is commonly understood, let us say that a masochist used the rule. The masochist has in their mind to have pain inflicted to them and so they could think that pain is what they could do to others for they would welcome pain inflicted upon them as the masochist does. This is a perversion of the rule, but do into others as you would want done to you could apply.
But it is much more than that. For the verse in question in the Hebrew scriptures is not an isolated verse. The entire set of books of the scriptures that the Jews use can be connected to the rule to define what the rule really means. I am prevented from educating readers here from what has been revealed to me in this regard that I think could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, due to the prohibitions to me here from Mr. Hsiung. And I am so sorry my friends.
But be it as it may be, you can make your own determination by using the preponderance of the evidence here. You can see the years of outstanding notifications from me to Mr. Hsiung. If those were responded to, you could have my perspective included in your making your determination. But you can't, and that could lead you to be influenced and persuaded falsely. And it is so easy to persuade the uninformed. It's so easy.
Lou
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