Posted by Lou Pilder on April 13, 2014, at 17:29:38
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion-nvreygn » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on April 12, 2014, at 18:57:43
> > > Let us look at this example:
> > > Let us suppose there was a break-in to a house and the robber was confronted by the resident and the robber shot and killed the home owner. ...
> >
> > One big difference is that no one was killed here. Compared to the "real" world, it's very safe here.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> You wrote,[...One big difference is that no one was killed here. Compared to the real world, it's very safe here...].
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by that. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> Let us use the statement in question, [...No non-Christian will enter heaven...].
> The statement can be seen by a subset of readers as being un repudiated by you and your deputies of record then. Those readers could also know that you state here that if a statement is not sanctioned, then it is not against your rules. And these readers could think that you are contradicting yourself because your rules on the faith board are that statements are not to disrespect another's faith. These subset of readers could think that you and your deputies of record are validating what the statement could purport. And I see nothing in the thread where anything could annul the fact of what the statement could purport.
> The statement in question could be thought by those readers as being analogous to:
> [...No Jew will enter heaven...]
> [...only Christians will enter heaven...]
> [...Christianity is superior to Judaism...]
> [...Judaism is inferior to Christianity...]
> [...The God that the Islamic people believe in that says that they can enter heaven as not being a Christian has deceived those believers and then the statement in question insults Islam and puts down the Islamic faith and therefore is not respectful to that faith...].
> Then the question here now is about those killed. There could be a robbery here but not a robbery where they pull out a gun. And there could be a murder here, but it would be outside the walls of this community but the motive could come from here, the fire of hate could come from here, the furnace of hate could be stoked here, Jews and the others could be stigmatized by you because you are allowing the statement in question to be seen as that you and your deputies of record are ratifying what the statement could purport by a subset of readers thinking that Jews and the others depicted in the statement are not as good as Christians because the statement excludes Jews and Islamic people and all other people that have in their faith that they can enter heaven as not being a Christian. The disrespect of their faiths as being seen here by a subset of readers as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole could bring back the horrors of the crimes against humanity. And who are you to say that there has been no one killed here. How could you make such a claim? How could you know of any deaths that are a result of the years of anti-Semitic statements being allowed by you and your deputies of record to be seen as not against your rules and as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole by you?
> Lou Pilder
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
Hate crimes have an origin. I will be posting later on how hate could be promulgated in a community, but let us look at this:
Lou Pilder
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/13/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
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