Posted by Lou Pilder on April 9, 2014, at 21:53:10
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion-preategss » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on April 9, 2014, at 7:04:55
> > > B. If you were in Saudi Arabia, hypothetically, and you were speaking to a large group of Islamic people about your best of two worlds book, and a man stood up and said to you, "The statement that no non-Christian can enter heaven that this Lou guy is trying to get you to post a repudiation to, insults Islam and you have not posted a repudiation to it on your site. In Islam, insulting Islam is punishable by death. Why should you be allowed to live?"
> > > Your answer would be:
> >
> > By sanctioning a later statement, I made it clear that I didn't necessarily validate that poster's statements.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Mr. Hsiung,
> You wrote,[...By sanctioning a later statement, I made it clear that I didn't validate that poster's statements...].
> I do not think so. If you could post answers to the following, then I could post my response to you.
> True or false:
> A. Could a reader think that what you have posted here could be a pretext to allow the anti-Semitic statement to stand? If not, could you complete item "B" below?
> Fill in:
> B. Lou, the reason that a reader could not think that what I have posted here as a pretext for me to allow the anti-Semitic statement to stand is:______________________________________
> Lou PIlderMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...By sanctioning a later statement, I made it *clear* that I didn't (necessarily}validate that poster's statements.
I say that sanctioning a word that a dictionary says is a vulgar word is different from sanctioning a statement that could lead Jews, Islamic people and all other people that have in their faith that they can enter heaven without being a Christian to feel put down, for I feel put down as a Jew when I read it. The statement in question, {...no non-Christian can enter heaven..] could be thought by a subset of readers to be analogous to {no Jew can enter heaven}, or {no Islamic person can enter heaven} or {only Christians can enter heaven} or {the concept of entering heaven that Islamic people and Jewish people believe in is false}. And even worse, a subset of readers could think that you and your deputies of record then *are* validating the statement on the grounds that you state that if a statement is not sanctioned, that it is not against your rules. And also that you state that being supportive takes precedence and that one match could start a forest fire and you do not wait to put it out.
Necessarily? That means that it may or may not be what you are ratifying. But your rule is what *could* lead one to feel put down or accused and what *could* put down those of other faiths, and what *could* be disrespectful to another's faith and what *could* be insensitive to another's feelings and what *could* be jumping to a conclusion about another. Your rule is what *could*, not what *must*. Your admission that the statement does not mean that you necessarily validate the statement, shows that the statement is what *could* lead a subset of readers to think that you and your deputies of record then *are* validating the statement because those readers could think that since you will not at this time post a repudiation to the statement, that you *could* be validating what the statement *could* purport. Those readers *could* also think that you are allowing the fire to spread because you are not putting it out by letting it stand.
I ask :
Would you be willing to post where the statement appears in the thread something like:
[...The statement is one that puts down those that do have in their religion that they can enter heaven as not being a Christian, such as Jews and Islamic people, and myself and the deputies of record do not ratify what the statement could purport because the statement could be analogous to {only Christians can enter heaven} which is against the rules. The fact that the poster used a vulgar word later does not annul what the statement in question could purport.
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1063929.html