Posted by Lou Pilder on October 9, 2013, at 13:39:47
In reply to Lou's response-owebhulschd, posted by Lou Pilder on October 9, 2013, at 12:42:08
> > For what it's worth, although I agree that the words are uncivil to non-Christians, I have heard the words often enough, in context, to understand that it's generally meant as a condemnation of Christian churches who do not have Christ at their center. It's not a phrase I particularly like. I think substituting God would be better. But I don't think it's intended to be against non-christians.
> >
> > Moreover, Mormons are, or are supposed to be, philo-Semitic. I was trained, as Joseph Smith taught, that Jews had their own covenant with God. A covenant that should be respected. I never heard anything remotely anti-semitic in church until I joined a Protestant church. Never. I was taught to respect and admire the Jewish people, who managed to maintain a covenant relationship with God despite dispersal and persecution.
> >
> > I'm not saying there is no anti-semetism among any Mormon individuals, but they are going against the words of Joseph Smith.
>
> Friends,
> It is written here,[...Mormons are..philo-Semitic...I never heard anything remotely anti-Semitic...I'm not saying that there is no anti-Semitism among any Mormon individuals, BUT THEY ARE GOING AGAINST THE WORDS OF JOSEPH SMITH (emphasis mine).
> Here are the words of the book that the Mormons use and consider it to be scripture from the claimed prophet Joseph Smith that is from Joseph Smith about Jews.
> Lou
> To see this, I am prevented from posting a link due to the prohibitions to me here from Mr Hsiung. So to see this:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [As Written In Official Mormon Scripture, John D. Stone]Friends,
It is written here,[...it is generally meant to be a condemnation of Christian churches...].
Now I would like for readers to see the post and see what it is, for it is what it is and says what it says.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
Now notice that the title of the second list is:
The top 10 worst reasons FOR ORGANIZED RELIGION (emphasis mine). And #5 in that list states that a religion having their agenda not centered in Christ is in the category of having the worst reason for their existence. The list is for all religions that are ORGANIZED. This includes Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other organized religions THAT FOSTER ANY AGENDA THAT IS NOT CENTERED IN CHRIST (emphasis mine).
That is what can be seen. That is what readers can think as to be conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of this community. That is what readers could think is supportive. And if you think for one second that I am going to ever stop my efforts here to purge that statement, and all the other statements here that could arouse hatred toward in particular but not limited to the Jews, then think again my friends, for I'm going to purge them one post at a time, and it won't cost you a dime.
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1051906.html